Vaccination Mandating

[Ariemay82]

I'm in NY. Wonder how other NURSES are feeling about mandatory COVID vaccination?

[Sciencedude1, BSN, RN]

34 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

You can so no to whatever medical procedure you choose, but that doesn't mean that employers can't have conditions of employment.

There are no clinical presentations that change the fact that someone who has had a reaction to a vaccine does not as a result have a contraindication to a subsequent dose.

Maybe you could offer an example of a clinical presentation that would justify an absolute contraindication?



Yeah I agree with you but employers are liable for the conditions of employment. 

 CDC clearly states that if you have anaphylaxis to first dose of pfizer/moderna you should not get a second dose of pfizer/moderna. Also if you had an anaphylactic reaction to johnson and johnson you should not get boosted with johnson and johnson. What if someone  has an anaphylactic reaction to the mrna vaccine (pfizer/moderna) and adenovirus/dna vaccine (johnson & johnson). This is concievable since the allergic sensitivity could develop in response to the spike protein which both vaccines models encode for.  Should that person get the booster considering that Fauci is saying that the definition of "fully vaccinated" might change to include boosters?

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

5 hours ago, Sciencedude1 said:

As per Dr. Steven Martenson, there are people who are being told they must take the second dose against their doctors advice as a condition of  employment. So employee's have to decide between their employment or following their doctor's recommendations.  Anyways Robert Barnes states that people in this position should get in writing the vaccine policy of the facility, their medical exemption rejection, or religious exemption rejection, and write a formal letter to their employer stating that they are taking the vaccine against their will. Like Robert Barnes stated earlier pharmacological companies enjoy legal liability protection but the facilities enforcing vaccine mandates do not. So in other words facilities rejecting medical exemptions should be following the current standard of care regarding vaccine medical exemptions.

Why do you believe two quacks on You Tube?  Chris Martenson is just trying to sell you his special "pandemic preparation"financial plan as long as you become one of his "special" subscribers.  

[PMFB-RN, RN]

On 1/13/2022 at 2:52 PM, Sciencedude1 said:

So the osha mandate was blocked by the supreme court  for large private business

Tyranny wins, freedom loses.

Just now, PMFB-RN said:

 

 

[Sciencedude1, BSN, RN]

25 minutes ago, PMFB-RN said:

Tyranny wins, freedom loses.

 

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[Sciencedude1, BSN, RN]

On 1/13/2022 at 8:55 PM, subee said:

Why do you believe two quacks on You Tube?  Chris Martenson is just trying to sell you his special "pandemic preparation"financial plan as long as you become one of his "special" subscribers.  

Well to state the obvious Chris Martenson has more relevant credentials than you. He went to Duke university and got a ph.d in pathology. As the matter of fact thanks to Dr. Martenson I prepared for the pandemic back when MSM was saying COVID19 was just the flu. I managed to beat the crowd fighting for toilet paper, got plenty of n95 respirators (which  some hospitals didn't manage to do), cleaning solutions, and a well stocked fridge thanks to Dr. Martenson. Look on his Youtube channel and you can see his coverage of COVID19 in early 2020. 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-martenson-53691711

 

[toomuchbaloney]

Let me know when these Youtube specialists are accountable to the American people and are required to answer to congress in open hearings as evidence.  

[chare]

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Two Marines have become the first service members to be granted religious exemptions from being vaccinated for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19).

Due to privacy considerations, no information about the two Marines was immediately available, said Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Andrew Wood.

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Marine Corps grants US military’s first ever religious exemptions for the COVID-19 vaccine

[toomuchbaloney]

Imagine a religious philosophy that is opposed to vaccination but not to killing.

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Imagine a religious philosophy that is opposed to vaccination but not to killing.

But it's OK to kill the first responders for your "religious" exemption.

DeWitt Township paramedic, firefighter dies of COVID-19.  He left a pregnant wife.

 

Lansing State Journal

 

[Sciencedude1, BSN, RN]

14 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Let me know when these Youtube specialists are accountable to the American people and are required to answer to congress in open hearings as evidence.  

Baloney. 

[toomuchbaloney]

45 minutes ago, Sciencedude1 said:

Baloney. 

Why is public accountability baloney?

[PMFB-RN, RN]

18 hours ago, Sciencedude1 said:

 As the matter of fact thanks to Dr. Martenson I prepared for the pandemic back when MSM was saying COVID19 was just the flu.

The only people I've ever heard say covid was just the flu is Trump and his sycophants. 

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-fact-check-anthony-fauci-flu-fe474f0c15f76adf324791a2cfc1e2bb

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/06/donald-trump/donald-trumps-false-claim-covid-19-less-deadly-flu/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/10/all-the-times-trump-compared-covid-19-to-the-flu-even-after-he-knew-covid-19-was-far-more-deadly/?sh=3582f34f9d2f