Updates for U.S : Many position available

suzanne4, RN · Jan 30, 2009

What you are leaving off is the fact that the US has been under a retrogression for more than two years already. It is going to take some nurses more than 7 years before having a chance at the US with a green card.

Magazines also go to post about several months out. Hiring practices have changed considerably in the past couple of months in the US as well. As more and more American nurses lose their jobs, then a hospital is not going to be able to prove that they cannot hire an American for the job. And the Americans usually want to work at the better facilities. And even more so in the past three weeks.

And these are listings also from several months ago, not what is current now in most cases. And these are geared towards someone that does not need to go thru immigration as well.

5cats · Jan 30, 2009

What's the point in that post?

I know and I guess most of us do, that there are positions available, but as Suzanne said no visas.

So what do you want to tell us?

5cats

redranger · Jan 30, 2009

What's the point in that post?
I know and I guess most of us do, that there are positions available, but as Suzanne said no visas.
So what do you want to tell us?
5cats

I think it great information.

Please remember foreign nurses come to USA on a daily basis and are/will be looking for work.

Nothing compared to before Retrogression, but they still come her.

My wife is on a K1 Visa from Philippines and she graduated nursing in March 2008.

I have learned so much from this forum, It has been an eye opener and acutally very enjoyable doing all the CES, Registering with BON, Pearson VUE, ATT, etc.

SuzzieZ · Jan 30, 2009

5 Cat ,

First and foremost , dude I hope you're not one of those protectionists !

Here's why?

A friend of mine staying in Manhattan, she lost her job recently but the problem is she can't simply relocate to California where jobs are available. As you know you can't ask New Yorker to moved to California easily ( i.e sell her apartment at Manhattan and tell her husband to quit 120K job. Think about her children education too ). She's been staying there for her whole life. People like her , they will stay where they are regardless of the job availability.

You got the point !

Retrogression. I'm sure it will change too. I've been watching and studying Barack for almost everyday and I'm sure he will fix on it when the time is right. Health care is one of his top priority and with that in mind I'm sure he can change the length for retrogression too.I wish to see more IEN coming to U.S.( of course not with paper qualification which, but with years of experienced , that's the difference between U.S and Canada system ).

Do you realized that he is still holding his Blackberry as of yesterday ?

There's a story behind Blackberry and you do a good search on internet if you don't know. It's a good example.

Anything is possible because - he can !

Silverdragon102, BSN · Jan 30, 2009

But there are many US nurses who are returning to the work place due to the current economical issues. Yes it would be great for the nurses who have been waiting years hopefully gaining some nursing experience whilst waiting but his first port of call at the moment is USC and ensuring they can continue to work. If he is also looking at healthcare he needs to look at work conditions, many nurses leave nursing because of management and how they treat their staff.

5cats · Jan 30, 2009

Redranger,

I agree that the board is great, and has plenty of good information available.

I'm sure there are Nurses coming to the US with a relatives visa and so are allowed to work. But what I can see from the posts here, many are still outside the US and waiting for a Visa, and for those I just think that info about job avaibility is frustrating and of no use.

5cats

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Jan 30, 2009

SuzzieZ

I don't know where you are from. Yes immigrant nurses are coming. But not in the numbers you would think.

From example the Philippine government reports US: from 373 in 2004 to 133 in 2006, I am guessing it is much lower in 2007 and 2008. With over 600, 000 unemployed nurses the realities are that one would have a better chance making it the semi finals on American Idol then come to the USA.

I look at the Scripps RN jobs, there are 79 jobs only but one or two require RN experience in a specialized area. Most IENs have no experience therefore very limited opportunities.

Many places have a job freeze but don't post that to the public.

About your friend in NYC, I would move in a heart beat if I was going not be employed. But that would be a very last resort.

5cats · Jan 30, 2009

And Suzzie, about paper qualifications and experience, it's no different for the US, if you're not qualified on paper, like having not enough hours, in some States not having a local licence, not a certain pass rate in english, they won't let you in. It's a very similar process in fact and it's certainly not easier than anywhere else. And they don't care a bit if you have 40 years of experience.

5cats

redranger · Jan 30, 2009

Redranger,
I agree that the board is great, and has plenty of good information available.
I'm sure there are Nurses coming to the US with a relatives visa and so are allowed to work. But what I can see from the posts here, many are still outside the US and waiting for a Visa, and for those I just think that info about job avaibility is frustrating and of no use.
5cats

I had read the article earlier this week and was surprised to see hospitals in there.

I go to Baylor Healthcare almost weekly, and check for jobs listing, I still see lots in my area in nursing.

Graduate Nurses, Float pool Nurses, RN's and other jobs in the Baylor Sytem.

I actually think the Retrogression will work in a "positive way" for my wife in finding a job.

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Jan 30, 2009

Most fail to mention that for new grad programs there are usually approximately 20 spots in the whole hospital and you have over 200 applicants...who do you think they're going to choose 1st? A graduate of a school in the US or a foreign grad?

suzanne4, RN · Jan 30, 2009

5 Cat ,
First and foremost , dude I hope you're not one of those protectionists !
Here's why?
A friend of mine staying in Manhattan, she lost her job recently but the problem is she can't simply relocate to California where jobs are available. As you know you can't ask New Yorker to moved to California easily ( i.e sell her apartment at Manhattan and tell her husband to quit 120K job. Think about her children education too ). She's been staying there for her whole life. People like her , they will stay where they are regardless of the job availability.
You got the point !
Retrogression. I'm sure it will change too. I've been watching and studying Barack for almost everyday and I'm sure he will fix on it when the time is right. Health care is one of his top priority and with that in mind I'm sure he can change the length for retrogression too.I wish to see more IEN coming to U.S.( of course not with paper qualification which, but with years of experienced , that's the difference between U.S and Canada system ).
Do you realized that he is still holding his Blackberry as of yesterday ?
There's a story behind Blackberry and you do a good search on internet if you don't know. It's a good example.
Anything is possible because - he can !

And there are not jobs in CA right now if you have been actually looking at the websites directly for the facilities, this is the point that I am trying to make.

When nurses are getting laid off here, and hospitals are having hiring freezes as well; then they are not going to be able to hire an international nurse and process their papers for them. Graduates in CA that actually live here are having great difficulties in getting hired right now.

And the Blackberry that Obama has is not the same as the one that everyone has, it costs more than $3200 US for it and is totally encripted. But this is not the point.

The push by Obama is actually for Americans to be working first, not bringing in foreign nurses when there is not a shortage in many locales.

If your friend got laid off in Manhattan, then why do you think that CA is going to be any better? Actually there are more than 10% of the population in CA that are unemployed at this time and when one is unemployed, they also lose their health insurance.

If you spend the time to actually do some reading on the CA Forum, you will see exactly what I am speaking of as well as the fact that we are telling people to have a job lined up before even considering moving here. CA is also very strong with unions, so you are not going to see hospitals that are unionized accepting any nurse on a temporary work visa and the US is under the retrogression and has been for more than two years.

Healthcare repair has nothing at all to do with bringing over foreign nurses to the US at this time, if you truly understand what is happening right now as well as the fact that a facility must prove that they have been unable to hire an American for the job. Quite hard to do at this point in time.