You're right.There are many jobs openings in Canada , no wonder only for carpenters and plumbers! Due to extreme weather you need to cover every HOLES of your home and so you need carpenters & you need plumbers to jam clear your water pipes!
By the way my friend work as a plumber and I can tell you it's a good business but very demanding.. You must be physically and mentally fit.
This profession is not for everyone.
So ..stay where you are ... and try your best to rescue your RN/PN position for this coming recession.
BTW: This post is about discussion on jobs situation in U.S and why are we talking about Canada here?
I believe what Fiona is trying to say is that a BSN in the Philippines isn't accepted in some provinces in Canada....yes, the post is about employment in the US, but it looks like Canada is already getting smart about what they recognize as equivalent....looks like the US needs to look at Canada as an example and start holding nursing education to a higher standard when it comes to foreign grads....
Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.
our seasoned nurse members are trying to educate an readers regarding reality of becoming an rn, every day nursing responsibilities of us nurses and job availability at the current time. we do so to provide an accurate prortrayal of nursing in the us, help avoid the pitfalls (one faces these in all employment settings) and maximize opportunity to obtain an entry level position. situations in our country are also affectng our neighbors in canada, hense including them.
over my 30 year career, i've seen many changes. biggest is that most hospital units are practicing intensive type nursing care on general medical surgical units as technology type care is available at the bedside that only existed in icu units 15-20 years ago, patients are sicker averaging 8-15 meds, and require highest level of nursing expertise to work on a general unit. therefore, positions for new graduates have dried up in many hospitals as need experienced staff to care for these high acuity patients. due to the economy, people are staying in entry level positions and not advancing as the mid level postions are being eliminated in some facilities. hr has directives to only hire experienced staff so they can more quickly assume full job responsibilites instead of time it takes to nurture new graduate.
nurses that would have worked part time are working ft or 2 part time postions as now main wage earner.
days of being interviewed, hired on the spot and start work following monday are few.
it takes 3-4 weeks for newly hired staff to start working after being offered a position as background check needs to be completed, physical needs to be scheduled/completed and orientation scheduled ---even longer if nurse needs to give notice at current position.
cost of healthcare as a business is driving many staffing decisions, not patient care needs. business do not want it known that they are not doing well, as don't want to drive away potential customers, so positions remain openly posted---just not being staffed or hiring freeze in order. we are trying to give you an insiders perspective on what is happening. no one wants to work short staffed.
best advice these days to land a position upon graduation is to apply for nursing internships start of last year in rn program, obtain a patient care tech position or apply for new grad internships 6 months prior to graduation for easiest time landing a first nursing position. as many members are posting at an: those that delay are reporting 6-12 months to obtain first hospital position.
Share of workers claiming unemployment benefits reaches 25-year high as layoffs spread
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Week by week, the numbers that measure the economy get worse, heading toward uncharted territory.
The Labor Department released figures Thursday showing that the percentage of the workforce receiving unemployment benefits reached a 25-year high in mid-January. The raw numbers were the highest since the government started keeping records in 1967, although the workforce was much smaller then....
But the jobless numbers were the worst -- with more layoffs on the way...
The figures underscored how hard it is for laid-off workers to leave the unemployment rolls by finding a new job amid the deepening recession....
More job cuts were announced Thursday. Cessna Aircraft Co., part of the Providence, R.I.-based conglomerate Textron Inc., said it plans to lay off 2,000 workers, on top of 2,600 cuts it announced earlier this month. Ford Motor Co. said its credit arm would cut 20 percent of its work force, or 1,200 jobs. Eastman Kodak Co. said it's cutting 3,500 to 4,500 jobs, or 14 to 18 percent of its work force. Black & Decker Corp. and Bon-Ton Stores Inc. also announced layoffs...
Starbucks Corp., Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, Target Co., Boeing Co., Pfizer Inc., Home Depot Inc. and others have announced tens of thousands of job cuts this week alone, bringing layoffs announced in January to about 130,000, according to a tally by The Associated Press....
I think the US has enough on it's plate just trying to take care of US citizens that need jobs without worrying about employing the rest of the free world.
Hello Truern
Your frustration is understandable but unfortunately you do not seem to understand the basic issues involved here. First of all understand that there will always be some local RN who can do any job that the IEN is being hired for . i.e IF you pay a suitable (higher) wage. However this is impractical in modern economy and you could use this logic to deny even a highly trained experienced IEN in ICU from immigrating. Aren't there local RN who can do the job that a highly trained IEN who is immigrating is applying for? The reason IEN exist is to increase the labor force and put a slight downward pressure on the wages (however this is never stated probably due to political reasons because it makes many protectionists angry). Lowering the wages via IEN or other professional legal immigrant leads to a stronger US economy because it translates indirectly into cheaper and affordable health care system.
Sorry, but bringing in foreign nurses for cheaper wages is not going to change the cost of health care. And it is actually illegal to be done. Very few facilities are even able to hire under the H1-B visa, and the green card requires that one be paid the same, whether US citizen or with the green card.
Are you actually working as an RN in the US or making a hypothesis? And one that does not make any sense at all right now? When there is a 10% unemployment and US nurses are getting laid off, then a facility is not going to be able to bring in a foreign nurse. Same as if they have hiring freezes in place as well.
I would recommend actually taking the time to do some reading on the state forums and find out how hard that it is for new nurses to get hired in the US at this time. And they have trained here and do not have any issues with immigration.
First and foremost , dude I hope you're not one of those protectionists !
Here's why?
A friend of mine staying in Manhattan, she lost her job recently but the problem is she can't simply relocate to California where jobs are available. As you know you can't ask New Yorker to moved to California easily ( i.e sell her apartment at Manhattan and tell her husband to quit 120K job. Think about her children education too ). She's been staying there for her whole life. People like her , they will stay where they are regardless of the job availability.
You got the point !
Retrogression. I'm sure it will change too. I've been watching and studying Barack for almost everyday and I'm sure he will fix on it when the time is right. Health care is one of his top priority and with that in mind I'm sure he can change the length for retrogression too.I wish to see more IEN coming to U.S.( of course not with paper qualification which, but with years of experienced , that's the difference between U.S and Canada system ).
Do you realized that he is still holding his Blackberry as of yesterday ?
There's a story behind Blackberry and you do a good search on internet if you don't know. It's a good example.
Anything is possible because - he can !
Thanks for posting . So you are saying this is the story of RN who can't find a job.
I'm not surprised why people like her don't have a job.
@Suzana
I think he is using model 8830 ( same model ), I remember because my hospital gave us the same model , but I'm sure unlike us he's in very secured network.
I don't know why Blackberry is discussing here ;-)
Obama's Blackberry cost over $3200 because of its security features, it is unlike any other Blackberry that is out there.
Last one hired is usually the first to get laid off in most facilities and that is what we are seeing now, as well as new grad orientations being cancelled just before they were to begin.
If you look at many of the RN positions that are actually offered, they want at least two years of experience in the US. New grad programs are less than 20 actually that are hired in most cases and they have two to three hundred applicants. Jobs are always going to go first to those that did externships there or did their clinical training in the facility. And by the time that the jobs get posted, they may not even exist. Some facilities are required to post them, but in realistic terms that are already filled.
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Since this thread is not moving forward and nothing new is being offered other than personal attacks, it is going to be closed. The US is very close to an actual depression at this time, all it is going to take is for a few more states to have greater than 10% unemployment. Unemployment is also at an all time high, have never seen it this bad and it is going to get worse before it gets better. A government's responsibility is to their citizens first and before everyone else from other places, the same as what every other country does.
If a country is unable to provide work for their own citizens, it is not the job of the US to be required to.
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@Fiona59
You're right.There are many jobs openings in Canada , no wonder only for carpenters and plumbers! Due to extreme weather you need to cover every HOLES of your home and so you need carpenters & you need plumbers to jam clear your water pipes!
By the way my friend work as a plumber and I can tell you it's a good business but very demanding.. You must be physically and mentally fit.
This profession is not for everyone.
So ..stay where you are ... and try your best to rescue your RN/PN position for this coming recession.
BTW: This post is about discussion on jobs situation in U.S and why are we talking about Canada here?