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4_2_100.gif My best friend is a CNA. She was somewhat supportive of me going through with the application process for my LPN, but as soon as I was accepted she stopped calling as often. I don't want to jump to conclusions, so I can't pinpoint her reasoning. Anyhow, today we were talking and she began talking about how hard clinicals and med math will be. She was saying book smart people do horribly at skills/clinicals. She said people who aren't great at math will flunk out because med math is hard, math tests are 100% or 0, and you have to pass in order to continue.

I believe her, but I don't know why she would even say that knowing I am not the best mathmatician and I am seriously nervous about clinicals. 4_2_3.gif Someone, please tell me how difficult med math and clinicals really are!

I know how you feel. I think my boyfriend are headed to spitsville casue I got into a program and he didn't :uhoh3: . Now all he ever wants to talk about is his GPA and how it was bigger than mine overall. That and he is telling me I wount be able to go and get a BSN after I get my ADN. He says after you get an ADN you would only receive a BS degree. He is so full of himself. I just wish he could have been excited for me like my best friend was. Oh well :rolleyes:

Hang in there, the math isn't gonna kill ya. Once you get a formula down pat, it's all good, and as for your friend?

I had one in nursing school that was wonderfully close. But she failed two classes and I didn't. It took her two semesters longer than it did me.

She came and worked as a CNA where I was a nurse, needless to say, our relationship didn't last long.

I miss her, but alot of water has went under the bridge now. There may have been jealousy involved, but it really wasn't an issue then, as it isn't now. Our downfall was when she came and I was her supervisor. THAT just didn't get it.....

Jealousy. It's that simple.

Competition does strain relationships. I have one friend who's still upset that I got a slightly higher average than she did .. and I mean slightly ... .01 percent. It really didn't matter because she still got an A. I mean ... an A's still an A. What difference does it make?

It's weird but I guess some people are constantly competitive, even over little things. But she's always comparing herself to others. Just the other day, she got into an argument with this woman over who had the better house. They were comparing square footage ... all kinds of nonsense.

:rolleyes:

Specializes in OBGYN, Neonatal.

Difficult? Yes, they are but they are "doable!". It requires hard work and commitment but many people have done it and many people are doing it so it can't be that bad! And yes sometimes people fail but they come back and try again if they really want to. We have a couple of girls in our class that did not pass and that came back to try again. It was for various reasons but the point is tey wanted to come back and they did!

The math, if you are using Dimensional Analysis, is not difficult if you follow the steps. I don't take shortcuts often. Even if I can solve the problem in my head, I still set it up using DA just to make sure I am doing it right.

Clinicals are always hard for me because I am shy but I did great the first time and we'll see how it is this time!

I don't know about how your school's program chooses their nursing students, but if it's like most programs, you had to do well to be accepted! They obviously saw potential in you regarding your grades, test scores, etc...you earned your spot! Every one of us upcoming students is nervous about what's coming up for us, but I know we'll all do well. We worked too hard getting where we are to let it go now. Besides, people always like to tell you how hard anything you're planning on doing is going to be. I mean, what's the first thing someone does when you tell them you're pregnant? They tell you about how awful you're going to feel, how fat you're going to get, how awful labor & childbirth will be, how you'll never get your figure back...they go on and on. Most times, things aren't as awful as others make them out to be--hang in there, I know you'll do great! :specs:

:kiss thank you for all the advice everyone. i secretly thought she may be jealous also, but i didn't want to seem catty. :stone anyhow, thank you for eleviating some of my fears about math. i do feel much better. i have to keep my sights set on the goal despite the negative vibes. full speed ahead to nurse-dom!
what if you approached her in a manner to encourage her to walk beside you. instead of letting her discourage you maybe you could say something like:

[color=#ff8c00]you know you did the cna training and you are a great cna. since you do like that, you should go to nursing school as well. i am sure you would make a great nurse.

[color=#ff8c00]then after hearing her reply, i think you would be able to really understand her feelings towards you. the jealousy would really show or not and maybe it is jealousy because she isnt aware of the avenues to take so she is able to go to school also. i didnt go because "its too expensive" so and so is lucky they get to go to college. i was not aware of the "help" to get me through it. so maybe she doesn't have the guidance and is scared also. there has to be a reason, because she could be sitting in that same chair as you. so why is she jealous? help her out and neither of you would see the jealousy!!! (hope i said that right, it is hard to put into words)

[color=#ff8c00]i would definately remind her that being a cna is just as important as being a nurse. let her know how important she is too. but also let her realize that she can pursue the nurse dream also. i know i was "scared" to apply for different reasons, but once i got my feet wet (each semestar) im ok!!!

[color=#ff8c00]i would certainly try to save my friendship rather than see the jealousy.

This is laughable...it's the very reason no one knew I was even thinking about going back to school after I already received a Bachelor's. So, I would make sure I took off my scrubs after clinicals so I wouldn't run into anyone for them to know what I was doing. Because ppl can be intimidated by your desire to excel, exceed, and succeed in your goals. I am so thankful to GOD for what He has done for me and giving me the mind and heart to pursue my RN career. Oh but gosh, when I was about to graduate with that second degree in nursing, NO ONE came, but my immediate family, I mean immediate family, not one friend, ex-coworker, hairdresser, the list could go on. But it was by the grace of GOD that I did graduate and am now an RN... Glory to GOD, for HE is worthy to be praised!!! And my kids are happy for me and know that our sacrifice is PAYING OFF!!! Praise YOU ALMIGHTY GOD, PRINCE OF PEACE!!!

hey, do not worry about the math! i am almost retarded when i comes to math, but i do just fine and my dosages and calculations and such, with a lot of studying! it is difficult, but i can be done! i find that talking to others about the difficulties they are having and then helping each other can reinforce what you already know and help with what you don't. i have to have study-buddies just so i have a peace of mind that i am doing it right!

Specializes in Med-Surg.
I don't know about how your school's program chooses their nursing students, but if it's like most programs, you had to do well to be accepted! They obviously saw potential in you regarding your grades, test scores, etc...you earned your spot! Every one of us upcoming students is nervous about what's coming up for us, but I know we'll all do well. We worked too hard getting where we are to let it go now. Besides, people always like to tell you how hard anything you're planning on doing is going to be. I mean, what's the first thing someone does when you tell them you're pregnant? They tell you about how awful you're going to feel, how fat you're going to get, how awful labor & childbirth will be, how you'll never get your figure back...they go on and on. Most times, things aren't as awful as others make them out to be--hang in there, I know you'll do great! :specs:

Bravo!!! Words of wisdom right here!

Specializes in Med-Surg.
what if you approached her in a manner to encourage her to walk beside you. instead of letting her discourage you maybe you could say something like:

[color=#ff8c00]you know you did the cna training and you are a great cna. since you do like that, you should go to nursing school as well. i am sure you would make a great nurse.

[color=#ff8c00]then after hearing her reply, i think you would be able to really understand her feelings towards you. the jealousy would really show or not and maybe it is jealousy because she isnt aware of the avenues to take so she is able to go to school also. i didnt go because "its too expensive" so and so is lucky they get to go to college. i was not aware of the "help" to get me through it. so maybe she doesn't have the guidance and is scared also. there has to be a reason, because she could be sitting in that same chair as you. so why is she jealous? help her out and neither of you would see the jealousy!!! (hope i said that right, it is hard to put into words)

[color=#ff8c00]i would definately remind her that being a cna is just as important as being a nurse. let her know how important she is too. but also let her realize that she can pursue the nurse dream also. i know i was "scared" to apply for different reasons, but once i got my feet wet (each semestar) im ok!!!

[color=#ff8c00]i would certainly try to save my friendship rather than see the jealousy.

yes, i've tried this as well with two people who did express genuine interest in school. but, the reality is that to get into a nursing program (or achieve a degree) you have to work very hard and some people just don't want to work that hard. i mean really, when you're talking about juggling work and family and exams... it's no picnic and not everyone's willing to go through it. when you do go through it and achieve something that your friends weren't willing to suffer for, sometimes that's where the jealousy sets in. ie you can lead that horse to water (and it's awesome to try) but they don't always want to walk 20 miles in the snow, up hill both ways, to get to the lake and rather than focus on the way you suffered and clawed your way up that trail month in and month out (year in and year out) to get to the water, they choose to bemoan the fact that you're now sitting in the shade having that drink.

congraulations on your acceptance, if you feel like you are lacking in math skills get some basic math books or take a course before your nursing course starts...it will brush up your skills(believe me things come into focus the second time aroung) and you will develop some good study habits that you will need in the time ahead....previous posts are right sometimes you have to be your own best friend

Specializes in MCH, L&D.
4_2_100.gif My best friend is a CNA. She was somewhat supportive of me going through with the application process for my LPN, but as soon as I was accepted she stopped calling as often. I don't want to jump to conclusions, so I can't pinpoint her reasoning. Anyhow, today we were talking and she began talking about how hard clinicals and med math will be. She was saying book smart people do horribly at skills/clinicals. She said people who aren't great at math will flunk out because med math is hard, math tests are 100% or 0, and you have to pass in order to continue.

I believe her, but I don't know why she would even say that knowing I am not the best mathmatician and I am seriously nervous about clinicals. 4_2_3.gif Someone, please tell me how difficult med math and clinicals really are!

I know this is off topic, but what school are you going to for the lpn program?
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