Typical drop/fail rates for RN programs?

det01 · Aug 22, 2003

75 at my school is failing....

You need a 77 to pass.

Ortho_RN · Aug 22, 2003

Originally posted by det01
75 at my school is failing....

You need a 77 to pass.

Your is a 77 average though, right???

We have to make a 75 at least on every test.. You would think a 75 would be a piece of cake to get, but you would be amazed how difficult the like to make it though..

But that is ok, I guess... :)

det01 · Aug 22, 2003

Yes...it is cumulative average - except for the math exams.

You must make a cumulative average of at least 80% on 2 of the three math exams to continue. You get to drop one of the three. If you make an A (94) on the first one - you do not have to take the other two. Your math grade is an A. If you get an 80% cum average on the first 2 tests then you do not have to take the 3rd exam. If you take the exams and get a 79 average on them, then you automatically fail the class. You are not allowed to use a calculator - but it is simple math anyways.

We took the first one this past Tues. We get our grades back this coming Tues. I know I made a stupid mistake and messed up one of the word problems. (I did not finish it - I should have x my answer by 2) I feel really stupid for that - but as I said earlier - I am not perfect.

We are not allowed to make up a math test. If you miss the math test you get an automatic 0.

We can make up test (if approved by the faculty) but they charge us money. Same goes for clinicals and skills (although I think they said that if you miss class when it is being done you can't recieve full credit for it, even if you do it perfectly when you do it)

As for difficulty - I am used to it. Almost all my test have been application NCLEX type tests since I started paking prereqs. The teachers I had said that nursing tests were not like other tests. They said that we needed to get used to taking application tests. It is hard to learn to study that way at first. I just memorize all the info and then I sit there and try to think of senerios they could give us. I even had one nursing class before I had to move. I was greatful then that my prereq teachers had been as tough on us as they were. I was much more prepared for the nursing classes.

PJMommy · Aug 23, 2003

With our math tests we have to make an 86 first take -- or else you are gone for the semester. But puh-lease...this is like jr. high math level. I actually had a classmate ask me if I knew where she could get a calculator that "does fractions". Huh? After further questioning, I realized she did not know how to convert a fraction to decimal...even with the aid of a calculator. Sorry...don't want her calculating a IV flow rate on a loved one.

det01 · Aug 23, 2003

Sounds like the people in my class....the teacher had to explain how to convert fractions into decimals 3 times! Some of the people still did not get it. Some were crying after the math test - not sure why - but they were fine before they took it. Some of the people were offended when they heard us say a 5th grader could pass the exam.

As for not knowing how to use a calculator - we have some of those too. We get to use one later I believe. However, I really do not understand why anyone needa a calculator to know that 3/4 is the same thing as .75 and also the same thing as 75%.

My mistake I made was just stupid. I'll be sure to check my work better from now on - but I really think that was the only mistake I made.

nekhismom · Aug 23, 2003

There was one class in my school that had approx. 20 students in it. At the end of 1st semester, all but 5 failed. 1 of those 5 sat out a semester due to personal issues. Another failed second semester. So, that left 3. Out of those 3 who entered the final nursing class, only 1 passed the HESI exam. This is required to graduate from my program. The other 2 did not "Graduate" at the proper time, but were allowed to re-take the test until the passed. SO, technically, in that class, 19 out of 20 people failed. Embarrassing, right??? BUt, as bad as this sounds, our program does have a 100% pass rate for the NCLEX. Go figure!

nekhismom · Aug 23, 2003

Originally posted by det01
I I have met people in my nursing classes that always sqeek by with the minimum grade. If I was in the hospital and some of them walked into my room - I would immediatly request another nurse. If It was a family member I would do the same and also suggest to friends that they try to avoid letting some of these people touch them.

I agree wholeheartedly!! I have 2 in my class like that, and quite a few who I would be checking behind if they were in charge of anyone I did not absolutely HATE ( which, BTW, is no one!). :eek:

On another note, I do think that the nurses with the highest grades are always the best ones. I have a 3.721 GPA with only one semester left to go, but I do not think that I have the best skills in my class. I have the highest GPA, but not the best skills, IMHO.

nursing 101 · Aug 23, 2003

At my school 76 is the passing grade. You have to score a 90 on all math/med test and you have 3 chances throughout the whole program. You get a math/med exam each time the semester begins...

geekgolightly, BSN, RN · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by agent
no offense.. i respect the post count, but isnt that something that losers say..??

"its not whether you win or lose its how you play the game..."

actually NO that is not something that "losers" say because some people do not play zero-sum games. of course, i see that we have people that still DO play zero-sum games :rolleyes:

kimtab · Aug 24, 2003

The class I started with in the fall had 110 students. By the end of spring semester in May we had 38. Some of those didn't pass the final, but the class was spilt so I have no idea how many that might be.

RNIAM, BSN, RN · Aug 24, 2003

our drop rate is not too bad I think. We still have 42 out of 55 who started and our pass rate for the NCLEX is 100% We will all be going into our senior year.

Jennerizer, ASN, RN · Aug 25, 2003

Schools are more focused on having high nclex passing rates...that is how they remain accredited (among other requirements). So of course they are going to try to weed out those that don't do well on nursing exams...otherwise their nclex passing rate would be low & it would reflect poorly on the school.