Turn every two hours

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In my first few years of working, one of the first things I encountered were patients who were comatose,

or comletely helpless and there was a rule that they had to be turned every two hours.

I remember one co-worker who would always ask me, "Have you turned L?" I always answered, "Yes."

Later on, I worked in places where they did not seem concerned about the ones who could not move.

Sometimes, they were left for as much as five hours. One time, I even ran into some debate about

a comatose patient who I thougnt should be turned. She was on my group, I went in to change and turn her

and someone who was not a supervisor immediately stopped me and she was adament about it.

Turning them at regular times seemed almost unheard of.

I also noticed when I first worked in this place, the charge nurse seemed a little surprised and

indifferent when I told her, "I'm going to turn Hazel." She just seemed to shrug.

Some authorities think they should be turned every four hours. They talk about them getting,

"settled in." In one specific nursing home I worked in, it seemed to confuse the others when I would go in

to turn mine and I felt like an odd ball.

I don't know how they can be so indifferent this way and they don't get in trouble for it.

I would ask them about it but did not get much of an answer. The DoN knew that this was going on. I heard some excuse about not wasting diapers, but this is not valid.

I wholeheartedly agree they need to be turned q2. Took care of a bedridden family member for years without so much as a red spot, then he goes to a nursing home for a month and comes back to us with huge craters of sores all over. :mad:

BUT, I really wish there were better ways of doing so. I hate how uncomfortable pts look when turned on their side. Can't imagine being stuck haphazardly on my side, unable to position myself comfortably, with a big foam wedge or bunched up pillows shoved under me for any length of time. Ugh.

At my hospital we have a turn team. They are actually an extension from our transport team. Each transporter is assigned a unit/floor. Every 2 hours they go around and offer their assistance to turn patients. I love this. Sometimes I don't need their help, sometimes I've just turned my patient, and sometimes I'm so thankful they are there to remind me 2 hours is up. Sometimes when you are busy 2 hours flies by so fast and you don't even realize it is time to turn.

That sounds awesome. Good for your hospital. We don't even have aides on our floor half the time. I can't imagine how nice that would be!!

Specializes in MS, LTC, Post Op.

I wish...just for one night, that ppl would lay in bed, NOT MOVE, and see how they feel!

My father has ALS and can't move...he also hurts if he is rolled on his side so prefers to not be positioned like that, however my mother and I still try to shift his weight atleast every 2 hours.

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.

I work in a hospital and we try to turn people q2 if they are at risk but that being said on nights we will leave a person if turning them means they will be awake for the rest of the night. Sometimes evening shift has spent ages just trying to get someone to settle and go to sleep so waking them on purpose would be counterproductive. We also don't turn palliative patients that are very close to the end and moving them would just bean ordeal for everyone.

Specializes in cardiothoracic surgery.

Turning patients every 2 hours on my floor is a big deal. We have computerized charting, so it is expected to be done and documented every 2 hours. We get a lot of pretty sick patients and our floor is one of the units with the highest risk patients. Everyone single person I work with turns their patients every 2 hours.

Keep doing what you are doing, your coworkers are not doing good nursing care, you are. And don't forget to elevate the heels!

Specializes in Med/Surg.

In addition you can try to encourage peers to do the same by recruiting them to help you turn your patients, then offer to help them turn theirs. They may not have the initial motivation to get up and find help to do it but while they are already up and turning people they might be more inclined until it becomes ingrained.

Way back when I was in LPN school (that one semester) we started our clinicals in a LTC caring for the residents who could not do anything for themselves at all, so turning q2h was the first thing we were told we had to be sure of. I still remember my instructor walking down the hall calling to us :"If its 10am, I want to see your residents turned facing the window" - the facility had it set up so the patients that needed turning q2h were all on the same "turn" so it was easier to determine if it had been done. I don't know if that is a common practice across facilities?

Specializes in PICU, NICU, L&D, Public Health, Hospice.

Regular repositioning of patients at risk for complications of immobility is a common intervention in a nursing plan of care.

IMHO, we should not have to have mandates to provide basic nursing care to our patients. Unfortunately, we as nurses have become very medically oriented and occupied, and our nursing process is too often an afterthought.

So...my opinion would be that you are providing good nursing...and your coworkers and superiors are not...at least relevant to this topic.

In my ICU we turn every two hours. We have specialty wedges that allow us to easily "wedge" a patient to one side or the other to off load their weight. Turn is beneficial, not only because of pressure sores, buts also pulmonary toilet in the comatose pt.

I think that you will see a rash of changes coming since Medicare will no longer pay for pressure sores in the hospital.

Nutrition and moistures are ket factors in pressure ulcer formation. Pt's are more susceptible to pressure sores that are malnourished and wet.

I'd be interested to see the data on q2. Our hospital's rehab unit does stretch out the times to q4 and even some I think are left overnight. And this is policy, not just laziness, I'm sure they got data to support it.

My little sister would be considered "high risk" but at home, my mom lets her sleep through the night. She's NEVER gotten a bedsore except for one at the hospital, and I almost wonder if it was from the dragging when pulling her up in the bed during the turns q2.

I hate turning folks q2 at night, not because I'm lazy, but want the poor folks to be able to sleep through the night. What is it about "2 hours" that makes it the magic number?

Specializes in PICU, NICU, L&D, Public Health, Hospice.

I think you make some good points, wooh. I believe in the power of the individualized nursing POC...so repositioning is according to patient need rather than according to a static "rule". I think we may get Q2hr stuck in our heads from nursing school.

It is true that allowing the patient to sleep at night is important. However, very few people sleep all night long without repositioning self. The exceptions, of course, are those folks we are talking about who have significant functional decline and are unable to move themselves. I am an advocate for a reposition at least once in the noc for these people to maintain comfort and skin integrity.

I do request that families and facility staff do reposition even actively dying patients if discomfort/pain is one of their problems...we premedicate to make the "gentle" reposition as pain free as possible. Of course, this is a case by case determination.

Specializes in retired from healthcare.
Not turning a comatose patient is horrible nursing care. I've never encountered it in my career.

Not only that but any patient who can't move and who sometimes is too polite to bother the staff when they start getting uncomfortable deserves the offer to be turned and changed.

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