Transgender Nursing Student

Sandy_dfw · Jul 23, 2008

I agree with you on contacting the ACLU to check legalities.

The problem is in a lot of states being gay/lesbian is still against the law.

The laws are not inforced but still in the books. I do not know what the

laws are in in any state excpet for Texas. In Texas a preson still legaly be

denied jobs, refused housing, ect. and it is still totally legal. It is wrong

but change is very slow.

Atheos · Jul 23, 2008

MassED said:

http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/gen/12006res20020311.html
A private institution would be smart not to open up a can of worms and lose lots of money by disallowing a person to participate like the rest of their students.

Transsexual is not a protected class.

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The Utah Transit Authority did not violate federal law when it fired a pre-operative transsexual probationary employee out of concern about which restroom she would use, according to a federal court in Salt Lake City.
U.S. District Judge David Sam of the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah said transsexuals are not a protected class under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964; thus, the U.S. Supreme Court's decision barring gender stereotyping in employment is not applicable to transsexuals.

Click above for article.

As unfortunate as it ism being a transsexual is not protected and the school, could act against her. It is a shame that in 2008 it isn't protected yet.

Discriminatory action towards transsexuals is in effect by law NOT discrimination. Hopefully the Christian school she is applying to actually practices what they preach. Maybe they will be OK with it.

MassED, BSN, RN · Jul 23, 2008

Transsexual is not a protected class.
As unfortunate as it ism being a transsexual is not protected and the school, could act against her. It is a shame that in 2008 it isn't protected yet.
Discriminatory action towards transsexuals is in effect by law NOT discrimination. Hopefully the Christian school she is applying to actually practices what they preach. Maybe they will be ok with it.

ok - maybe not transgender or transexual, but gay or lesbian - if a person's civil rights were violated, that is an issue - irregardless of their sexual orientation. This goes into legalities... not my arena. http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/

Still, OP could cause quite a stink if they were to harass him.... and I'm willing to bet they don't want that kind of publicity.

JStyles1 · Jul 23, 2008

Is there something in particular that you are so amazed about?

the whole situation

KarmaInMotion · Jul 23, 2008

have you checked into any glbtg websites that may have info from others that have transitioned while earning a degree? I think I hve to agree with many of the posters that say either take on one struggle at a time, or keep a low profile in regard to the school if you plan to go through with both things at once. Since it is a private religious institution, they do have their own "based on moral code of conduct type of rules". I mean have you checked out what the courses are? at a local (religious) university I'm considering for continuing toward a BSN later they make students take theology, spirituiality and christianity in nursing classes. A "typical" college does not require this. I would see this as a "thier own rules" sort of thing. I am not trying to discourage you, I truely wish you all the best. Just don't limit your options to ones that may burn your bridges. Surely there is a way you can do both, but you should think it through thoroughly, get legal advice, as you are, and pave yourself as smooth a road as you possibly can. :heartbeat

**SKM-NURSIEPOOH, BSN, RN** · Jul 24, 2008

MQ Edna said:

is there something in particular that you are so amazed about?

I'm just going to take a stab here, but may be this poster was impressed with transgender's bravery? may be they admire their sheer will to dare live the way she wants to?

not everybody have ill or mal feelings ~ cheers :cheers:,

moe

Transgender_n_TN · Jul 24, 2008

I just got out of Patho:yeah: and decided to check back in and see the responses.

I'm glad for the overall positive response. :redpinkhe

Contacting the ACLU has been one thought of mine, as well as finding out the school's policy on Transgender students. I don't want to raise too much interest yet by asking for a copy of the schools bylaws, but I will need it if/when I consult with an attorney. Thanks for the suggestion for a androgynous sounding name, which I had already picked out some time back. I also planned on not bringing attention to myself if I decided to tackle both NS and transitioning. Many former students of my school already warned me to do that.

Someone brought up the valid point that other's have tackled other similar big changes in their life at the same time as NS and finished the program with no problems. I should be able to do the same.

I might transfer to another nursing program. The University of Memphis has the Loewenburg School of Nursing and their prereq's and degree requirements are almost similar. Most of what I have should transfer over. The U of M is NOT a private institution. But I keep hearing that the nursing program isn't that good. :cry:

JettaDP · Jul 24, 2008

I might transfer to another nursing program. The University of Memphis has the Loewenburg School of Nursing and their prereq's and degree requirements are almost similar. Most of what I have should transfer over. The U of M is NOT a private institution. But I keep hearing that the nursing program isn't that good.

Write down the pros and cons of both. Maybe seeing a list will help you decide.

Find out what the NCLEX pass rate is for the U of M. If their pass rate is average or above average it can't be that bad of a school. There are people who got to top schools and don't pass the NCLEX on their first try. I've asked the advice of nurses in my area about good/bad schools and their opinions. One thing that I was told is that in nursing school you learn the facts and figures, so to speak. And that nursing schools are generally the same as the next minus a few differences. The "real" learning begins with actual job training. Of course, this is just the opinion of a few. There are probably very different experiences that others can share.

Also, if you haven't already, post a question about U of M in the Tennesse forum. You will hopefully get some responses that will help you in your decision.

ohmeowzer RN, RN · Jul 24, 2008

I just got out of Patho:yeah: and decided to check back in and see the responses.
I'm glad for the overall positive response. :redpinkhe
Contacting the ACLU has been one thought of mine, as well as finding out the school's policy on Transgender students. I don't want to raise too much interest yet by asking for a copy of the schools bylaws, but I will need it if/when I consult with an attorney. Thanks for the suggestion for a androgynous sounding name, which I had already picked out some time back. I also planned on not bringing attention to myself if I decided to tackle both NS and transitioning. Many former students of my school already warned me to do that.
Someone brought up the valid point that other's have tackled other similar big changes in their life at the same time as NS and finished the program with no problems. I should be able to do the same.
I might transfer to another nursing program. The University of Memphis has the Loewenburg School of Nursing and their prereq's and degree requirements are almost similar. Most of what I have should transfer over. The U of M is NOT a private institution. But I keep hearing that the nursing program isn't that good.

i think you should go to the school you want to... i really don't think you'll have much trouble with your school your accepted to. if the other school is a better choice go there.. you want the best education you can get , you will be dealing with people's lives and you want the best.

i wouldn't contact the ACLU until you feel you have to... wait and see how the program accepts you changing... if there's trouble then contact them... but don't start the program with the ACLU by your side. you want to go in quietly and transition , you will be fine... the guy in my class had no trouble at all... he was actually very nice to all of us... he was nice to his patients and did good , he wore laides things and that was okay we all loved and accepted him.. by the end of school we called him shanna and he wore a dress to pining... i like him/ her ...

don't you worry just do what makes you happy and keep us posted about school , when do you start school? just keep being yourself

Nursetastic · Jul 24, 2008

Just my :twocents:

I'm still a student and I would be honored to be your classmate. Anyone who is strong enough to take on ANY life change in addition to nursing school is stronger than I am. I do hope you have a strong support system both at school and in your personal life. Keep your chin up and keep us informed! Good luck! :icon_hug:

WhoNeedsaShot? · Jul 24, 2008

IMHO, Whatever school you decide, instead of starting out as JOE, I would start out as JoAnn.......... That may save a whole lot of "drama"

Good luck to you!

JQ

kstec, LPN · Jul 24, 2008

Nursing school is hard enough alone, but adding the whole being (externally) your changing, that is going to take it's own toll on you emotionally, physically and psychologically whether you want this procedure or not. I would either do one or the other first, not both. The human spirit can only endure so much at one time and your pushing the limit. And someone also said re: the Christian school, christians can be the most judgemental people of all and that is not what your going to need. You're going to need a support group of some type, not people adding agony to what you feel is something wonderful you are doing. Some people say don't worry about what others think or say, but as human beings with feelings, sometimes that is hard to do. Good luck in whatever choice you make and if you decide to do both, I hope you have the inner strength to endure it all.