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Topic of the Day: GO AWAY FOREIGN NURSES!

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Since he came from a 3rd world country it's hard to say what requirements were in place for him. There was a slight language barrier, but it was his skill level- probably stemming from his basic nursing background/education- that was his problem.

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I agree with your statement regarding monitoring a foreign grad nurse....What they do in their country might not be what is done in the US...I honestly believe that they should have not only a few years experience under their belt, but they should be required to take a transition course that would transition them to nursing here. They should have their skills assessed before taking the NCLEX to make sure that their skill level is that of what's expected and practiced here in the US...

This is what is being done currently in Alberta. Of course, CARNA is being roundly criticized for being too tough and making it too difficult for IENs to be licensed here. It seems less important that the mandate of CARNA is to ensure safe, ethical nursing care is provided to the people living here and more important that they license all applicants with the least amount of fuss.

I have to agree with that statement...There are poorly educated American Nurses and I've worked with them...and some with experience and I still question their ability and prefer not to be paired with them....

Amen to that. I've had coworkers I wouldn't allow to look after my plants, never mind myself, a loved one or my patients. Sadly our management is content to ignore the complaints about poor care provided because we're so short staffed all the time that anyBODY is better than noBODY. You've got a pulse and can hold a pen, go to it.

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What are people expecting? When it comes to immigration, everyone is going to have their opinion...Some people don't embrace immigrants with open arms and some people do....

The point is, if people come to the international forum looking for information about licensure, or immigration, or venting because they are frustrated that there are no visas... why do you care? Why would you feel the need to comment and go on about how you don't want them in the US and you're glad of retrogression? Yes, there's free speech, blah blah - but what's the POINT? What do you get out of it?

Someone once gave me good advice about posting online. Ask three questions before posting: Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

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here they go again....good thing these posters doesn't run the government.they're not happy spewing out their unsolicited advices, now they want to change the way foreign nurses are recruited just to stop them from coming.

yeah,the thread title is really appropriate... GO AWAY FOREIGN NURSES !!!!

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Working with a nurse who is unsafe is a nightmare. It harms the patient and burns out the other nurses having to complete 2 assignments while administration thinks that there are 2 fully qualified nurse . In the past before retrogression some IENs were placed in positions without the correct assessment or orientation. This was not the fault of the IEN but the administration who hired them without looking at the entire picture. It was in the era where administration viewed a nurse is a nurse and could function 100% in any area. Some of these issues have changed. Joint Commission requires that every nurse have a competency based assessment. Employers can't bring in IENs at a lower wage. Many nursing unions are in place to protect the current nurse's job security and nursing patient ratios.

What I find distressing is that many foreign nursing students have not been told the full picture from their nurse leaders. From what I have read they are expecting immediate positions in the USA or Canada and that their education makes them fully qualified to practice with minimal supervision in the hospital setting. Nurses educated in the US have to complete a newly licensed nurse program in most hospitals and they are not qualified to work unsupervised. If you read where the nursing needs are in the US, they are in ICU, OR, PACU, or home care. These are areas that never hired new grads without completing extra training. The venting I read is the disappointment that all the time and effort they have spent doesn't equal a hospital position in the USA or a position in their home country.

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The point is, if people come to the international forum looking for information about licensure, or immigration, or venting because they are frustrated that there are no visas... why do you care? Why would you feel the need to comment and go on about how you don't want them in the US and you're glad of retrogression? Yes, there's free speech, blah blah - but what's the POINT? What do you get out of it?

Someone once gave me good advice about posting online. Ask three questions before posting: Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Why do you care that they are posting? ;)

Why does it bother you?

The point is that this is a forum. That EVERYONE can input their ideas. Everyone. No matter who they are or where they are from.

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Why do you care that they are posting? ;)

Why does it bother you?

The point is that this is a forum. That EVERYONE can input their ideas. Everyone. No matter who they are or where they are from.

Y'know, Stanley, I have the RIGHT to walk through an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood on Shabbos in a halter top and short shorts while eating a ham and cheese sandwich. It doesn't mean I should.

:yldhdbng:

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I understand what you are going through, I am glad that you are speaking out about this. I don't know in which state you are having this problem, but it has become just an ironic situation that WE as an foreigners are hired to do the same work which THEY as an Americans doen;t want to do it anymore, or not compitent enough to do there jobs. From IT positions to Meat plants, From vinyards to nurses. Who's fault is this, NOT OURS!

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Why do you care that they are posting? ;)

Why does it bother you?

The point is that this is a forum. That EVERYONE can input their ideas. Everyone. No matter who they are or where they are from.

yeah,you're right.anyone can input their ideas but they have to be on-topic and don't hi-jack the thread with their post like what's happening again on this thread.

i'm just amazed how these so called "guardians of nursing standards" managed to steer this thread so that they can post again their biased view about foreign nurses.:down:

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Y'know, Stanley, I have the RIGHT to walk through an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood on Shabbos in a halter top and short shorts while eating a ham and cheese sandwich. It doesn't mean I should.

:yldhdbng:

Ahh but if you choose to do so no one can blame you. It's NOT their neighborhood. Same reason I drink on Sunday. Same reason church's ring their bells and mosques do the call to prayer on loud speakers.

Sharing. It's ours... Not theirs or mine.

There was a time where you couldn't walk in a neighborhood because you wore the wrong skin that day...

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Gee, someone loves having the last word. Even if it's totally irrelevant.

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