mauiboy

very well said, retsimnaeb.

Thanks for the links... Very scary stories!

Thats true.... Very scary indeed!

And your point is? I know what you're trying to imply by posting this link. You're really stirring the hornet's nest, aren't you?

Bring it on, then. At least on my part, I've already got a nursing license to lose while you haven't even got one yet. :) :) :) Try to finish your studies first.

I'm very sorry to hear that after all the studying you've done and living close to the French, you still consider yourself not proficient . My two cents advise is... "practice makes perfect":smokin:

Before we agree to disagree...let me just provide the people in these thread who are fortunate enough of not needing take the IELTS to prove how "fluent" they are, what the IELTS or TOEFL really is. Bear also in mind that IENs are required to take the more difficult Academic tests to prove their so called "fluency" http://www.britishcouncil.org/learning-ielts-what-is-it.htm

Then what you are saying is....the very standard that the US gov't is asking from IEN is not good enough? Let's go on a little experiment here if you don't mind. What if you take these exams yourself ( i'll be all too happy to refund you the costs ) and see how you do. You don't know where the comments about the Cubans came from? Try to backread a little before you stick your nose into the topic. BTW, how do you know that i'm not in the good ole US of A yet? For all you know, i may be the one who did the chart that you read.:lol2:

Passing the IELTS together with passing the NCLEX is a requirement set by the US gov't for a IEN to be able to practice in the US. If they passed that, then it means they are competent enough to meet the standards set by the government. Fluency is a different issue but i don't see why not being fluent in english will affect your duties as a nurse. Fluency is just talk and as the saying goes "talk is cheap". As long as the chart notes are legible and comprehensible, thats fine by me. BTW, have you heard of any Filipinos who died while crossing the ocean just to get to the States? 'cause I heard of a lot of Cubans who did.

9 mos. volunteer work experience definitely doesn't meet the requirements for a H1B to be granted. You should have at least 2 years experience in a specialized area. Some agencies just keep on filing these applications taking advantage of the fact that the H1B quota hasn't been met yet. Some doesn't even require paperworks like VSC when everyone knows that it's one of the most impt. piece of paperwork in the whole process. tsk tsk tsk

Don't you know that these Filipino nurses you're talking about has to pass the IELTS or TOEFL before they can practice in the U.S.? The mere fact that they passed these exams are proof enough that they are competent in the english language. Fortunately for me,you're not a Filipino because I don't want my country's name based on what you are saying. It's part of our history and our heritage and it's inappropriate for a foreigner to even suggest changing our country's name. If we are going by with the premise that you are raising, then America or your native country CUBA should also be changing their name.

The unhapiness boils down to the fact that they have high expectations for these IEN's. I don't understand how can we expect someone coming from a different background and culture to start working on the floors immediately with minimal supervision and orientation. Passing the NCLEX or the canadian exams doesn't guarantee that the IEN ( i wouldn't just single out Pinoy nurses) possess the skills required. It's a start but that should also be partnered by proper training,supervision and mentorship by a senior nurse.

^^^^ can you kindly provide a link to substantiate such claim? thanks

what she is trying to say is....she is asking your help with regards to relocating to whichever country that has demand for nurses....plain and simple. now, if you can't help her with that, then it may be best just to not reply rather than imply that the TS is in the nursing profession just for monetary gain. right.

congrats and good luck..... i'm also seriously weighing the pros and cons of going via the H1B route now that there seem to be no end in sight for retrogression. hope things will work out for you. all the best!!