Too much testosterone at work- frisky doctors

LittleCatB · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by iliel
OMG!!!

Remember ladies, we're not allowed to look men in the eye or they'll think we want to sleep with them:rolleyes:

IME this is the case :chuckle

After a few crappy experiences in the past few years, I try not to talk to men I don't already know. (I'm married BTW) Co-workers or friends of friends would be a different story, I guess. (I work with all women anyway) But I wouldn't foster a friendship with a guy unless he was gay.

it sucks it has to be this way (at least this point in time, in my mind), and I'm sure that I'm missing out on some great friends; but I'm thoroughly sick of being in uncomfortable situations, and not being sure how I got into the uncomfortable situation in the first place. :confused: and FTR, I am no "hotty"

to the OP- don't let the situation snowball... nip it in the bud. say loudly and with dignity "don't talk like that to me" and if that doesn't work, report 'em. it'll just get worse if you don't.

Agnus · Dec 17, 2003

I suspect you have hit the nail on the head in saying that nurses are disrespected by management and Physicians are reguarded as customers.

Don't think the doctors do not know this. I have seen this before. The hospital understands the physician is the one who brings in the patient (i.e. business) They understand they could take patients somewhere else.

Nurses do not bring business.

What the hospital is missing is that these SAME physicians are not such primadonna at competing hospitals and YET, they are still bringing in patients there.

My guess is that management will not give you a lot of support in this. Either you respect yourself enough to do something or you don't. By all means address this directly with the physician. Document. (always keep copies) Report it and document that. If you get no satisfaction get an attorney.

The fact there were other doctors present and they smirked instead of taking him to task, says they all feel that the behavior is acceptable. They got that message from somewhere. Just don't let that message come from you.

jemb · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by Rapheal
With the ortho doc I was really flustered and ignored him the first 2 times he asked me this. The third time (these were all in a row) all I could think of (not very brilliant) was "ummm no".

Next time tell him, "Only with ice cold water". :rolleyes:

LisaRN2B · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by jemb
Next time tell him, "Only with ice cold water".

:roll

Yeah, that might work!

SmilingBluEyes · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by skybirdrising
Either you are a real hottie that any man finds irresistable or you may have that unconciously flirting thing going on giving men the impression that you are interested. Let your conversation be work related only and cut out the small talk with those pervs and 90% of this should be eliminated.

what an inappropriate and unhelpful comment. this is stereotyping and assuming way too much. UGH! I am gonna stop right here, this comment is too aggravating to further address. What bullpoop.

Sheri257 · Dec 17, 2003

Looks like a potential, multi-million dollar sexual harassment lawsuit to me.

I'm amazed anybody would do anything like this in the workplace.

But men, even doctors, are stupid I guess. :eek:

Tell them to call your attorney. See how they like that.

tmiller027 · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by lizz
Looks like a potential, multi-million dollar sexual harassment lawsuit to me.

I'm amazed anybody would do anything like this in the workplace.

But men, even doctors, are stupid I guess.

Tell them to call your attorney. See how they like that.

Well, according to federal guidlines, the maximum amount one can get in a typical sexual harrassment suit is around $300,000 plus attorney fees, depending on the number of employees, but all that depends on how management handles a complaint once they're made aware of it. I know this because a female friend and co-worker along with myself filed a similar case against our supervisors. This coming from me, a stupid man

LisaRN2B · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by tmiller027
I agree with this one and I'm male. This kind of thing is not the woman's fault, especially if the guy is married.

However, it's not limited to nursing. I work in law enforcement right now, and my best friend is a female officer who always has married guys hitting on her. She simply tells them no and that she doesn't appreciate the comments.

Unfortunately, some didn't stop and she was forced to file a complaint, which is a whole new story by itself.

Regardless, don't let these guys bring you down.

In my experience (with regard to law enforcement only) is that the woman who files sexual harrassment charges against other officers or higher ups is indelibly marked as a whining trouble maker. I have seen it happen...no one wants to work with her, rumors start to fly about how she is the one who is sleeping w/so-and-so...

I don't know if this is the typical reaction to sexual harrassment charges in other professions, but I imagine it may be similar given that the orificeholes that do sexually harrass have their buddies that back them up and make it their business to make life a living hell for the accuser. Just my observations.

And no, I have never been personally involved in an harrassment incident.

Sheri257 · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by tmiller027
Well, according to federal guidlines, the maximum amount one can get in a typical sexual harrassment suit is around $300,000 plus attorney fees, depending on the number of employees, but all that depends on how management handles a complaint once they're made aware of it. I know this because a female friend and co-worker along with myself filed a similar case against our supervisors. This coming from me, a stupid man

Really? Ok. There were several well-publicized million dollar judgements out here in California. Maybe it's a difference between state and federal laws, or maybe the laws were changed. I dunno.

Of course, I don't mean that all men are stupid. I'm just amazed at how some men continue to do this with all of the publicity, lawsuits, etc. involving sexual harassment.

tmiller027 · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by LisaRN2B
In my experience (with regard to law enforcement only) is that the woman who files sexual harrassment charges against other officers or higher ups is indelibly marked as a whining trouble maker. I have seen it happen...no one wants to work with her, rumors start to fly about how she is the one who is sleeping w/so-and-so...

I don't know if this is the typical reaction to sexual harrassment charges in other professions, but I imagine it may be similar given that the orificeholes that do sexually harrass have their buddies that back them up and make it their business to make life a living hell for the accuser. Just my observations.

And no, I have never been personally involved in an harrassment incident.

Actually, you kind of hit the nail on the head. One of the accused parties went and rallied the police officer's union against us, and our chief routinely follows us around the department and questions us whenever we take so much as a pee break. That's okay though, because we have an attorney and have filed with the EEOC. AND, I'm a civilian employee and have a separate union who is on my side and is watching the cheif very carefully in case I get in trouble over something stupid. I also document every single conversation I have with a higher up and send a copy of it to my lawyer. We have a mediation meeting scheduled next month to work out a "resolution" so we'll see who has the last laugh. In our case, the dept dropped the ball from the start. You can PM me if you wan to know the dirt LOL.

tmiller027 · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by lizz
Really? Ok. There were several well-publicized million dollar judgements out here in California. Maybe it's a difference between state and federal laws, or maybe the laws were changed. I dunno.

Of course, I don't mean that all men are stupid. I'm just amazed at how some men continue to do this with all of the publicity, lawsuits, etc. involving sexual harassment.

I think those lawsuits were class action suits involving like 100 employees suing at the same time. At least the one I heard about in Minnesota was. That was like 200 employees and they got $11 million. But there was also fondling and sexual assault in some of that suit as well. When there's physical touching involved, the dollar amounts go up as well, but for verbal comments and retaliation, it's pretty much a set amount as far as I know.

sanakruz, ADN · Dec 17, 2003

Originally posted by skybirdrising
Either you are a real hottie that any man finds irresistable or you may have that unconciously flirting thing going on giving men the impression that you are interested.....

You are utterly wrong.
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