At first I wasn't going to write this post since I believe that a film that appears to be (at least in part) based on thoroughly discredited, fear-mongering nonsense should get as little attention as possible.
Then after browsing several anti-vaccine and conspiracist websites I found as I suspected, that this has already exploded and whatever I write here won't make matters any worse.
The film 'Vaxxed' is directed by Mr Andrew Wakefield, a former physician who lost his medical license after research that he had authored, was found fraudulent (containing as I understand it, both methodological and ethical flaws).
Just watching the trailer for this film elevated my BP into dangerous territory. How is it that this man keeps promoting the same debunked data to this day? Hasn't it caused enough harm already?
It seems that anti-vaccine proponents span the entire spectrum from sadly misinformed to clearly unhinged. However, no matter what their individual motivation happens to be, they are in my opinion dangerous. We have fought a hard battle against diseases that today are vaccine-preventable. Millions of children have died in the past and some still do, to this day. We don't see much of it in first-world countries due to the success of vaccines. Anti-vaccine proponents seem to believe that the "olden days" were better. I think it's deeply worrisome.
In my escapades around the internet, I've found all sorts of scary blogs, clips and opinions relating to childhood vaccines.
This YouTube clip rather amusingly (in a sad way) has 90 likes and zero (!) dislikes (probably because no rational person would even click on it in the first place). (I'm not sure what this says about me)
Anyway this women thinks that nagalese (an enzyme) is added on purpose to vaccines in order to induce autism, cancer and type 2 diabetes in vaccine recipients. And the doctors who discovered this were subsequently murdered to cover this up. This vaccine tampering seems to be a part of some nefarious population control plot.
(It seems that alpha-N-acetylgalactoseaminidase (referred to as nagalese in the YouTube clip) can deglycosylate vitamin D binding protein (DBP) and DBP plays a role in the immune cascade response. So it seems that alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase can interfere with the immune response. While some cancer cells can release alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase, I've found no proof that injecting them into humans induces cancers, never mind autism and DMII. I will however admit that I didn't spend an inordinate amount of time researching her theory).
I admit that this last video is a bit extreme. But this woman and other "anti-vaxxers" have one thing on common. They are willing to accept something as true, even when there is no supporting evidence available.
Serious questions:
* Why are some people so vulnerable/susceptible to flawed logic and poor research?
* What can we as nurses/healthcare professionals do to ensure that our patients base their decisions on sound evidence-based facts or at least have the opportunity to do so? Or should we just reconcile ourselves with the fact that a portion of the population will base their decisions on questionable or outright false information, misconceptions and fear?
The truth is, safety is well established for both multi-dose and single dose, so debating the cost-effectiveness of each is a moot point, and can be continued in a new thread if you'd like to post one.
He added that if vaccines truly work to protect children and adults, then there should be no worry about vaccinated children and vaccinated adults being exposed to non-vaccinated children & non-vaccinated adults!
Tell your DH that as has been stated many times, we have no worry about vaccinated kids/adults being exposed to non. We are worried about those who for medical reasons or chronological age (read: who have no choice) are unable to be vaccinated, being exposed. In previous decades they could depend on herd immunity to keep them safe.
How do you feel about mandatory directly observed treatment for TB? Should they have a choice to refuse? Or are there instances where public health trumps personal choice?
A side note. Tetorifice is an awful disease and I don't know why any rational person would decline the vaccine which offers very good protection. When I saw the posted portrait several pages back depicting the soldier afflicted by tetorifice it literally made me physically ill. It brought back some bad memories. I have seen two cases of neonatal tetorifice (in an African country).
It's horrendous.
I'm sorry. FWIW the thought of treating that disease with a sauna made me physically ill, which is why I wanted an illustration. Unfortunately when looking for that image I did see some other pics that can't be un-seen... I can't imagine actually seeing that suffering in person.
As you noted, I used the word if.†So why should what I say be censored IF others reading this can not comprehend what I am saying?
That post also addressed the fact that I did NOT review that study thoroughly (to the point where I can comment on it).
Again I am NOT concluding that. READ what I said:
Again, this is not to conclude that vaccines cause autism, but it is to expand on the Somali studies that point to a potential environmental cause.
Please read what I have posted, then respond. And please do not words in my mouth. Never said you needed to censor you posts. If you have read what I wrote, I was trying to do damage control to a statement that had an "if" in it that would be ignored, and the remainder taken as proof.
I know you have not have time to go through the study. I was just giving you a starting point for your examination.
Never said anything about you stating vaccines causing autism in Somali children. I commented that the reports you put up found incidents of autism in Somali children was on par with caucasian children in the same city. The other comment wondering about their culture was something talked about in the reports you put up stating the severity could be attributed to their culture.
Oh, and this post was better, but please proof before posting. Unless the grammar was on purpose to irritate me.
The truth is, safety is well established for both multi-dose and single dose, so debating the cost-effectiveness of each is a moot point, and can be continued in a new thread if you'd like to post one.
I am NOT questioning the safety of multi dose or single dose. I am questioning how many facilities use multi dose for their own employees as a cost saving measure.
Please read what I have posted, then respond. And please do not words in my mouth. Never said you needed to censor you posts. If you have read what I wrote, I was trying to do damage control to a statement that had an "if" in it that would be ignored, and the remainder taken as proof.
Forgive me if I misunderstood you.
Am I correct that you are highlighting that by putting the if†in the statement it makes it a correct statement?
I took what you said as meaning I should not make that statement because people reading it might miss the if†and take the statement as a fact.
1) The answer is more than just teaching the best EBP to our patients.......The answer is more about addressing the psych issue called reactance. The government can't mandate that someone put a potentially harmful substance in their body without it creating resistance. When the resistance is not answered with evidence that SATISFIES it creates fear which ultimately leads to some developing rational and sometimes irrational conspiracies.
2) The worst thing healthcare professionals, schools, daycares, etc... can do is pressure these patients because it only exacerbates the reactance.
3) Vaccines have become a RELIGION to many nurses and we need to accept that these patients have legitimate concerns. Let's not act like the VAERS doesn't matter! Every year in the U.S. there is about 4000 severe vaccine reactions are reported to the CDC that cause permanent disability or death. Dying or becoming permanently disabled is a legitimate concern! We need to treat these patients as we would ANY other patient that refuses treatments!
4) Many feel that they have about the same chance of dying or becoming permanently disabled from the vaccine as they do with contracting the illness. If you look at statisical history this viewpoint has some legitimacy.
6) If healthcare organizations really want to protect patients why do they ignore current scientific evidence and not mandate that all nurses wear a mask? For example, Does Wearing a Mask Prevent the Flu?
7) Why do healthcare organizations ignore current evidence and still practice outdated policies that are not supported by scientific research relating to the flu vaccine? For example, Benefit of Healthcare Worker Flu Shots Questioned
FNPMRL3,
This is an impressive post. I completely overlooked reactance.
For those of you who disapprove of sarcasm, ignore this post. This link is from the satirical web site, GomerBlog. It is fictional, thus when I previously cited it as news, I put "news" in quotes.
For those of you who disapprove of sarcasm, ignore this post. This link is from the satirical web site, GomerBlog. It is fictional, thus when I previously cited it as news, I put "news" in quotes.
I reviewed the information I had posted about Jethro Kloss treating tetorifice (lockjaw) with hyperthermia (like a sauna or steam bath), and I want to correct what I wrote.
Jethro Kloss, in his book "Back to Eden", spoke of rabies (hydrophobia), not tetorifice, being treated with hyperthermia.
For "lockjaw" (from tetorifice), Jethro Kloss used an herbal mixture called "Anti-spasmodic tincture", and his book describes the herbal ingredients of "Anti-spasmodic tincture" (based on a small amount of lobelia and a bit of red pepper, plus additional herbs).
I apologize for the error. Anyone with either tetorifice or rabies should, of course, be treated as soon as one "steps on a rusty nail" or is bitten by an animal, by his/her Medical Doctor (M.D.)
I'm sorry. FWIW the thought of treating that disease with a sauna made me physically ill, which is why I wanted an illustration. Unfortunately when looking for that image I did see some other pics that can't be un-seen... I can't imagine actually seeing that suffering in person.
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. Please don't feel bad. I think it's a good thing that you posted the portrait.
Watching human beings suffer is such a painful experience. I think that most nurses can relate to this, we've all seen it in one form or another. I'll have my memories regardless of what someone posts here, so once again Here.I.Stand, please don't think that you made it worse in some way. You didn't. I'm also sorry about the pictures you inadvertently saw during your search, I can imagine that they were painful to see. As I mentioned, tetorifice is a horrendous disease.
I suspect that many people who oppose childhood vaccines only manage to do so because they falsely assume or have managed to convince themselves that the diseases that the vaccines aim to prevent, are basically harmless. On this forum, I've seen the diseases been referred to as "sniffles" more than once. I suppose it's easier to decline vaccination if you stick your head in the sand regarding the suffering and deaths these diseases are capable of causing.
I reviewed the information I had posted about Jethro Kloss treating tetorifice (lockjaw) with hyperthermia (like a sauna or steam bath), and I want to correct what I wrote.
Jethro Kloss, in his book "Back to Eden", spoke of rabies (hydrophobia), not tetorifice, being treated with hyperthermia.
For "lockjaw" (from tetorifice), Jethro Kloss used an herbal mixture called "Anti-spasmodic tincture", and his book describes the herbal ingredients of "Anti-spasmodic tincture" (based on a small amount of lobelia and a bit of red pepper, plus additional herbs).
I apologize for the error. Anyone with either tetorifice or rabies should, of course, be treated as soon as one "steps on a rusty nail" or is bitten by an animal, by his/her Medical Doctor (M.D.)
Please provide a link to anything that shows how kloss successfully treated rabies with hyperthermia. A google search of this approach returned zero results.
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to cover this up. This vaccine tampering seems to be a part of some nefarious population control plot.
FWIW the thought of treating that disease with a sauna made me physically ill, which is why I wanted an illustration. Unfortunately when looking for that image I did see some other pics that can't be un-seen... I can't imagine actually seeing that suffering in person.
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The truth is, safety is well established for both multi-dose and single dose, so debating the cost-effectiveness of each is a moot point, and can be continued in a new thread if you'd like to post one.