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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
QuoteFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
toomuchbaloney said:Just because changing our constitution wasn't mentioned in that article does not mean that such a thing is not on Trump's agenda. He's said a much. His sycophants have said as much. Project 2025 is a blueprint of sorts.
Biden likely won last time because Trump demonstrated a complete lack of character and leadership skills during the pandemic in the months leading up to the election. During those critical months he was the single largest source of misinformation about covid and intentionally politicized a national health emergency. People were sick of his chaotic incompetence.
It would be an entirely different contest if the GOP candidate wasn't a corrupt, lying felon.
I read that there's some concern that the RNC convention might be interesting.
Biden will lose this time because he's seen as a feeble confused well meaning old man who looks weak to our nations hostile enemies.
He allowed what many consider using the criminal justice system to against your political opponent.
People feel they were better off economically under Trump.
I guess better to have a ***** grabber than ***** POTUS
Crusades said:Perhaps she'll look to Hillary for some guidance?
Maybe you could explain that, it doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that Hillary could give Melania advice on staying married to her husband in spite of his sexual transgressions? Hillary doesn't know anything about being married to a felon or incompetent failed former president. Please explain.
Crusades said:I rather be governed by someone who can tell a lie that someone who no longer know what a lie is
You have an affinity or preference for liars? Is this new or have you always preferred liars? You must be aware that Trump isn't just a run of the mill liar. He's the biggest liar, the best liar, the most consistent liar and his lies are believed by millions of people... even when believing the lie put them at risk for disease and death.
Crusades said:I think the implications of using the justice system against your political opponent (whether legit or not) is far more fearful than than all the other fear mongering claims made against Trump.
I think the idea of charging Trump was a big mistake for democrats.
Americans have had a strong standing of not prosecuting political opponents as it has show to be done by murderous tyrannical governments all through history. Almost no justice is worth setting the precedence of political persecution of your political rival.
The desperate attempt to keep Trump out of thevWH may but what gets Trump elected again.
How exactly is the legitimate prosecution of someone for crimes using facts and evidence "more fearful than all of the fear mongering"?
Honestly, you've been told by the felon and it's repeated in your media that the legitimate function of our system of laws is somehow a persecution and unfair to the guy with a long long history of using the civil legal system to hurt people. You repeat the felon's claim because you are predisposed to just believe it without evidence.
You think that democrats charged Trump because that's what your media and Trump tells you. The state of New York DA charged Trump using grand jury system to review the evidence. The state of Georgia charged Trump using the grand jury c system to review the evidence. The DOJ charged Trump in Florida after he failed to comply with requests for documents, concealed those documents, and lie to the DOJ and his attorneys about the documents.
Fun fact, every criminal politicianrunning for reelection is some other politician's political opponent. That's not a shield from accountability. Most people are smart enough to think that it is OK to prosecute a criminal if that criminal is running for office, believing otherwise requires some indoctrination. That seems to be Trump's defense, you can't prosecute if he's running because that's election interference. Baloney.
Nah. Trump's legal troubles will likely continue to cause him to lose support among independents and moderates. His base is pretty devoted because it includes a cult. Trump's most likely path back into the white house is the extra-constitutional effort and ideas of Republicans at the state level, to change their vote totals or to send EC delegates for Trump regardless of the popular vote... things like that.
Crusades said:Yes. As I said. I feel Trump can manage better and so do millions of other Americans.
Normal cognitive change is still cognitive decline. A man with his decline shoukd not be POTUS.
Do you ever consider the implications on Biden? His health?
Only in this circumstance would placing a senior man with cognitive decline due to age or not, in a powerful position at the risks of others. This would not be acceptable but because it has to do with power, Biden's administration and family are fully engaging in elder abuse.
I guess you can't blame Dr. Jill Biden as she's not a medical Dr......
According to others Trump will be ypur president again.
Yep. You prefer the crazy and incompetent guy who lied all the time, I know.
Normal cognitive aging is different from dementia. Nurses know that so you should know that.
I have considered the implications. Biden has a competent staff and team, not a bunch of opportunists and sychophants in his cabinet and advisory positions. Should Biden be incapacitated by age or health or an unexpected event the country will have leadership that reflects Biden's values. I've also considered the implications of giving Trump that power again and what happens should be unable to serve out his term. Project 2025 changes things.
Now you're throwing around crazy claims of elder abuse as if President Biden isn't capable of making his own decisions and choices. Hahaha
And then you pivot to some mention of Dr Biden and the fact that she's not a medical doctor... that's not cultlike, no, not at all. LOL
According to others... many people say... Trump is going to prison.
toomuchbaloney said:You have an affinity or preference for liars? Is this new or have you always preferred liars? You must be aware that Trump isn't just a run of the mill liar. He's the biggest liar, the best liar, the most consistent liar and his lies are believed by millions of people... even when believing the lie put them at risk for disease and death.
No. I don't like liars much. I don't like I only have 2 choices.
The election isn't about who the biggest liar. There are policies that come with each candidate. We know how we were and what our lives were like during each Biden and Trump terms.
We see the characteristic Trump with his grandiose personality and we see Biden deciding in cognition.
toomuchbaloney said:Maybe you could explain that, it doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that Hillary could give Melania advice on staying married to her husband in spite of his sexual transgressions? Hillary doesn't know anything about being married to a felon or incompetent failed former president. Please explain.
Perhaps she could help Mrs. Trump on how to manage having sexual relation with women in the oval office and then lying about it to the American people and his impeachment?
toomuchbaloney said:Yep. You prefer the crazy and incompetent guy who lied all the time, I know.
Normal cognitive aging is different from dementia. Nurses know that so you should know that.
I have considered the implications. Biden has a competent staff and team, not a bunch of opportunists and sychophants in his cabinet and advisory positions. Should Biden be incapacitated by age or health or an unexpected event the country will have leadership that reflects Biden's values. I've also considered the implications of giving Trump that power again and what happens should be unable to serve out his term. Project 2025 changes things.
Now you're throwing around crazy claims of elder abuse as if President Biden isn't capable of making his own decisions and choices. Hahaha
And then you pivot to some mention of Dr Biden and the fact that she's not a medical doctor... that's not cultlike, no, not at all. LOL
According to others... many people say... Trump is going to prison.
Is she a medical Dr? No. That's the truth so how does that make me "in a cult"? Do cults now repeate the truth?
Cognitive change related to age is normal. However it's still Cognitive change. That's why senior eventually have their drivers licence revoked. LOL
A poll shows that Americans rate threats to democracy as an important issue, but that the president has yet to convince them he is the one to defend it."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/
Beerman said:"Trump trusted more than Biden on democracy among key swing-state voters
A poll shows that Americans rate threats to democracy as an important issue, but that the president has yet to convince them he is the one to defend it."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/ real
Interesting poll. I think those respondents are naive and not very well informed about Trump, his team, or Project 2025.
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I rather be governed by someone who can tell a lie that someone who no longer know what a lie is