The election 2024 Thread

Published

I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

Quote

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
toomuchbaloney said:

LOL

Sure Trump condemned them... that's why they attended his coup attempt on 010621 and pledge support today, right?

You can keep saying these things but the actual evidence seems to contradict your claims.  

Oh I guess he'll be charged for insurrection then? Wait...... 

Biden has a problem because the terrorist sympathizers he did not condemn think he is guilty of allowing genocide because of his weak condemnation of antisemitism.  

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
toomuchbaloney said:

LOL

Sure Trump condemned them... that's why they attended his coup attempt on 010621 and pledge support today, right?

You can keep saying these things but the actual evidence seems to contradict your claims.  

And we can't forget the phone call by the Proud Boys that came into the WH just before 1/6.  Making WH invasion plans or selling Girl Scout cookies?  

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
subee said:

And we can't forget the phone call by the Proud Boys that came into the WH just before 1/6.  Making WH invasion plans or selling Girl Scout cookies?  

Maybe they just wanted to make up after Trump so strongly condemned them? It's all just a misunderstanding that the far right extremist groups were associated with members of Trump's team and attended his party that day at the Capitol, according to the cult.  

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Crusades said:

Oh I guess he'll be charged for insurrection then? Wait...... 

Biden has a problem because the terrorist sympathizers he did not condemn think he is guilty of allowing genocide because of his weak condemnation of antisemitism.  

It seems important to you that Trump be specifically charged with insurrection.  It's as if you believe that a lack of a specific charge means that its inappropriate to discuss the attempt to overthrow the elected government as something other than an insurrection. 

Biden definitely has a problem with agitators assigning genocide to Biden.  

"he is guilty of allowing genocide because of his weak condemnation of antisemitism."

Did that make some logical sense in your mind?  Probably.  

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Crusades said:

People in cults often don't know they are but use repetitive language and talking points. 

Trump did not bewitch millions of people. Millions of people are not in a cult because they disagree with you. 

Especially because you say they are. 

 

 

Let me repeat, repetition of facts is not the same as propaganda. For instance, when I repeat that Trump mismanaged a pandemic and was the largest source of covid misinformation in 2020; those are facts, not propaganda.  When I say that Trump lied about rigged elections starting months before we voted in 2020 and then tried to change the results when he lost, those are facts, not propaganda.  Some things are facts whether or not they are litigated in a criminal court.  

You are wrong.  Trump has a cult.  He has conned millions of Republicans and conservative Americans because the GOP and unscrupulous right wing media made it possible for him to do that.  You are among their victims.  Hopefully, you'll be able to look back on this someday and see your error.  

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
Crusades said:

Oh I guess he'll be charged for insurrection then? Wait...... 

Biden has a problem because the terrorist sympathizers he did not condemn think he is guilty of allowing genocide because of his weak condemnation of antisemitism.  

  This is pure gaslighting. There are many Jews (I am one of them) that believe Trump is the one who is anti-semitic, calling Allen Weisselberg his "little Jew" in public and supporting Christian nationalists.  Trump is only interested in Jews if they give him a lot of money.  Otherwise, he's fine with cemetery desecretations, etc. and the Proud Boys.  He also is in absolutely in no way a rightous person and we don't want anything to do with him.  He wouldn't talk to us anyway!   We're just middle class people.  Who is Biden to tell Netanyahu what to do?

 

toomuchbaloney said:

Maybe they just wanted to make up after Trump so strongly condemned them? It's all just a misunderstanding that the far right extremist groups were associated with members of Trump's team and attended his party that day at the Capitol, according to the cult.  

They came to a town hall meeting here to have our city named as a gun sanctuary even though guns rule in Michigan.  They all wore their special club T-shirts and had the worst beards ever.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
toomuchbaloney said:

It seems important to you that Trump be specifically charged with insurrection.  It's as if you believe that a lack of a specific charge means that its inappropriate to discuss the attempt to overthrow the elected government as something other than an insurrection. 

Biden definitely has a problem with agitators assigning genocide to Biden.  

"he is guilty of allowing genocide because of his weak condemnation of antisemitism."

Did that make some logical sense in your mind?  Probably.  

Yes.  People who poop  in the WH and attack, injure police and the people who invited them should have consequences.  What's going in in Gaza is  NOT genocide.  Israel never had a public policy of annihilation of the Gazans, unlike the position of Hamas.  Hamas was permitted to operate in Gaza by Gazans.  Should Netanyahy and Yahya Sinwar should both be in prison.  Unimaginable that people can't see this.

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
toomuchbaloney said:

It seems important to you that Trump be specifically charged with insurrection.  It's as if you believe that a lack of a specific charge means that its inappropriate to discuss the attempt to overthrow the elected government as something other than an insurrection. 

Biden definitely has a problem with agitators assigning genocide to Biden.  

"he is guilty of allowing genocide because of his weak condemnation of antisemitism."

Did that make some logical sense in your mind?  Probably.  

No it makes as much logical sense as anyone who votes for Trump is complicated with Nazis, rapist  extremist and are in a "cult" because some may have voted for him. While completely disregarding some people like this didn't vote for Biden. 

I didn't say Biden was genocide Joe, that's ridiculous.  It's just a ridiculous to suggest that I'm a cult member who likes rapist and nazis.  Or millions of other Trump voters are. LOL. 

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
subee said:

Yes.  People who poop  in the WH and attack, injure police and the people who invited them should have consequences.  What's going in in Gaza is  NOT genocide.  Israel never had a public policy of annihilation of the Gazans, unlike the position of Hamas.  Hamas was permitted to operate in Gaza by Gazans.  Should Netanyahy and Yahya Sinwar should both be in prison.  Unimaginable that people can't see this.

I actually agree with everything said here. Except the invitation part. I'm responsible for my own behavior not others. 

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Crusades said:

No it makes as much logical sense as anyone who votes for Trump is complicated with Nazis, rapist  extremist and are in a "cult" because some may have voted for him. While completely disregarding some people like this didn't vote for Biden. 

I didn't say Biden was genocide Joe, that's ridiculous.  It's just a ridiculous to suggest that I'm a cult member who likes rapist and nazis.  Or millions of other Trump voters are. LOL. 

Your words are barely making sense.  What is your first paragraph supposed to mean? 

Regardless of your denials, it's clear that Trump has a cult.  

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
toomuchbaloney said:

 

Let me repeat, repetition of facts is not the same as propaganda. For instance, when I repeat that Trump mismanaged a pandemic and was the largest source of covid misinformation in 2020; those are facts, not propaganda.  When I say that Trump lied about rigged elections starting months before we voted in 2020 and then tried to change the results when he lost, those are facts, not propaganda.  Some things are facts whether or not they are litigated in a criminal court.  

You are wrong.  Trump has a cult.  He has conned millions of Republicans and conservative Americans because the GOP and unscrupulous right wing media made it possible for him to do that.  You are among their victims.  Hopefully, you'll be able to look back on this someday and see your error.  

Yes. Please repeat....

https://propagandacritic.com/index.php/everybody-is-biased/repetition/

Specializes in Med-Surg.
toomuchbaloney said:

Regardless of your denials, it's clear that Trump has a cult.  

I think the point is that Trump does indeed have a cult following, a sizable one at that, sizable enough to give him the nomination, that isn't attuned with reality, he also has people voting for him that's a vote for logical reasons such as conservative policies and that he isn't Biden.  You can't lump all people voting for Trump as members of a cult.  

+ Join the Discussion