The Downward Spiral: Incivility in Nursing

classicdame, MSN, EdD · Apr 21, 2011

I do not condone incivility, but I understand that sometimes crap rolls downhill.

Chin up · Apr 21, 2011

Blah, blah, blah....just cuss their azz out!

netglow, ASN, RN · Apr 21, 2011

OP, although you have good intentions and interest in this subject you should not copy and paste a Medscape article or any other, but encourage people to follow the link and sign up and read it on their own. The reason why I must log-in to my Medscape account to read from the link you attached, is because Medscape has rights. Be careful about copyright infringement. BTW, I don't work for them.

Chin up · Apr 21, 2011

I am so sick and tired of studies, experts and the what not on bully's. They are here, have always been and will always be. Back in the day, we had no psycho babble on ," how to deal with them, or how to run and hide from then, or how to not stress over them." I hate bullies and I hate the effect it has on people. Kids actually kill themselves over this. It is no joke and we don't need studies to tell us this. We already know. We also know those who suffer from being bullied and we know the bully themselves. All this psycho babble does nothing to shut them up or make one being bullied feel better. Studies on this and that, medscape, MSN, DR...please, we had none of that, we just took care of our business....told them to shut up. Period. .....in the old days, we didn't play that and we had few to no, known enemies. People kept their mouths shut, didn't role eyes and clothe daggers in silk. Why, because we had common sense and our common sense, told us to handle our business or get someone else to do it. All this coddling is stunting the growth of your sense. When I see a bully, I confront them. I don't care who they are or who they are bullying. It is violence and I won't tolerate it. All you who ignore it, shame on you. You watch someone being bullied and say nothing..ha..I will tell you a thing a two also. You who laugh and think it is funny, don't laugh in front of me. People are losing their darn minds, thinking they can do and say, whatever they want. Wrong. In order to live in a free country such as ours, you need decency. We also need good folks to stand up and do the right thing. Bully's are cowards and will sulk away when enough of you tell them we are sick of it and we won't take it anymore. God help the bully that crosses my path, and I ain't kidding. Peace!

roser13, ASN, RN · Apr 21, 2011

OP, this is the latest of your recent postings of other authors' essays/research.

May I ask why you are posting these long-winded articles? All of which might truly be news-worthy but none of which are likely candidates for posting on an internet question/answer forum.

As you may have noticed, a previous poster has advised you to beware of copyright infringement possibilities. I'm just not understanding why you feel compelled to post these articles here.

WIN007 · Apr 21, 2011

I'm always glad to see this topic get much needed attention, but I also concurr with the others who advised you to be wary of pasting full articles. A better route is to summarize the keypoints in your own words with citations or to excerpt sections and post the linki.

WIN007 · Apr 21, 2011

I am so sick and tired of studies, experts and the what not on bully's. They are here, have always been and will always be. Back in the day, we had no psycho babble on ," how to deal with them, or how to run and hide from then, or how to not stress over them." I hate bullies and I hate the effect it has on people. Kids actually kill themselves over this. It is no joke and we don't need studies to tell us this. We already know. We also know those who suffer from being bullied and we know the bully themselves. All this psycho babble does nothing to shut them up or make one being bullied feel better. Studies on this and that, medscape, MSN, DR...please, we had none of that, we just took care of our business....told them to shut up. Period. .....in the old days, we didn't play that and we had few to no, known enemies. People kept their mouths shut, didn't role eyes and clothe daggers in silk. Why, because we had common sense and our common sense, told us to handle our business or get someone else to do it. All this coddling is stunting the growth of your sense. When I see a bully, I confront them. I don't care who they are or who they are bullying. It is violence and I won't tolerate it. All you who ignore it, shame on you. You watch someone being bullied and say nothing..ha..I will tell you a thing a two also. You who laugh and think it is funny, don't laugh in front of me. People are losing their darn minds, thinking they can do and say, whatever they want. Wrong. In order to live in a free country such as ours, you need decency. We also need good folks to stand up and do the right thing. Bully's are cowards and will sulk away when enough of you tell them we are sick of it and we won't take it anymore. God help the bully that crosses my path, and I ain't kidding. Peace!

Hmmm. I don't think confronting a widespread epidemic headon is necessarily coddling anyone. (which is not to say I don't agree with you that when someone is just being ubersensitive mangement intervention is a bad thing). It's costing millions in turnover and creating unsafe environments. It's also a very complicated issue - taking a bull in china approach typically won't help if there is a person of seniority, with more valuable skillsets, or a group collectively working against you.

The real answer is professional courtesy across the board, accepting that nursing hostility creates unsafe environments for our patients and ultimately affects us as individuals given the associated cost with it. And, as you note, refusing to tolerate it when you see it being done to someone else.

Willow Moonsidhe · Apr 22, 2011

I am giving credit to the authors and the website. I feel especially reading some of the responses here that this is a much needed exploration into why these things are happening. Maybe it will help others to discuss it more in depth and the articles give ideals for dealing with it. Some of the responses have also helped me personally to look at solutions to help curb this type of behavior. Knowledge is power and never hurt anyone.

Brightest Blessings

Willow

pedicurn, LPN, RN · Apr 22, 2011

I am so sick and tired of studies, experts and the what not on bully's. They are here, have always been and will always be. Back in the day, we had no psycho babble on ," how to deal with them, or how to run and hide from then, or how to not stress over them." I hate bullies and I hate the effect it has on people. Kids actually kill themselves over this. It is no joke and we don't need studies to tell us this. We already know. We also know those who suffer from being bullied and we know the bully themselves. All this psycho babble does nothing to shut them up or make one being bullied feel better. Studies on this and that, medscape, MSN, DR...please, we had none of that, we just took care of our business....told them to shut up. Period. .....in the old days, we didn't play that and we had few to no, known enemies. People kept their mouths shut, didn't role eyes and clothe daggers in silk. Why, because we had common sense and our common sense, told us to handle our business or get someone else to do it. All this coddling is stunting the growth of your sense. When I see a bully, I confront them. I don't care who they are or who they are bullying. It is violence and I won't tolerate it. All you who ignore it, shame on you. You watch someone being bullied and say nothing..ha..I will tell you a thing a two also. You who laugh and think it is funny, don't laugh in front of me. People are losing their darn minds, thinking they can do and say, whatever they want. Wrong. In order to live in a free country such as ours, you need decency. We also need good folks to stand up and do the right thing. Bully's are cowards and will sulk away when enough of you tell them we are sick of it and we won't take it anymore. God help the bully that crosses my path, and I ain't kidding. Peace!

Likewise.

I closely observe those who have bullied me ...build up a case and report them.

And I note bullying with others and assist them with putting their case forward.

Currently ... I need to watch myself as I work in an environment where the bully reporters can be in trouble. Staying under the radar right now.

I thoroughly hate bullies and will do what I can to stop them

Bella'sMyBaby · Apr 22, 2011

I am so sick and tired of studies, experts and the what not on bully's. They are here, have always been and will always be. Back in the day, we had no psycho babble on ," how to deal with them, or how to run and hide from then, or how to not stress over them." I hate bullies and I hate the effect it has on people. Kids actually kill themselves over this. It is no joke and we don't need studies to tell us this. We already know. We also know those who suffer from being bullied and we know the bully themselves. All this psycho babble does nothing to shut them up or make one being bullied feel better. Studies on this and that, medscape, MSN, DR...please, we had none of that, we just took care of our business....told them to shut up. Period. .....in the old days, we didn't play that and we had few to no, known enemies. People kept their mouths shut, didn't role eyes and clothe daggers in silk. Why, because we had common sense and our common sense, told us to handle our business or get someone else to do it. All this coddling is stunting the growth of your sense. When I see a bully, I confront them. I don't care who they are or who they are bullying. It is violence and I won't tolerate it. All you who ignore it, shame on you. You watch someone being bullied and say nothing..ha..I will tell you a thing a two also. You who laugh and think it is funny, don't laugh in front of me. People are losing their darn minds, thinking they can do and say, whatever they want. Wrong. In order to live in a free country such as ours, you need decency. We also need good folks to stand up and do the right thing. Bully's are cowards and will sulk away when enough of you tell them we are sick of it and we won't take it anymore. God help the bully that crosses my path, and I ain't kidding. Peace!

Just a couple weeks age my teen age daughter was with her friend who has a deformed arm.

Two girl bullies started teasing this girl about her arm.....

My daughter took these two bullies on....

One of the bullies started crying.....

Needless to say, that was the end of it.

I support my daughter fully to standing up to these two little brats. :yeah:

Chin up · Apr 22, 2011

Just a couple weeks age my teen age daughter was with her friend who has a deformed arm.
Two girl bullies started teasing this girl about her arm.....
My daughter took these two bullies on....
One of the bullies started crying.....
Needless to say, that was the end of it.
I support my daughter fully to standing up to these two little brats.

Give your daughter a hug from me! She is a courageous young lady and I salute her. You should be proud!