Talked with California BON; something *can* be done

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I have been bothered by the ban on Excelsior College graduates in California and was afraid there was no other option than to go through another ADN program. I made a call to the California BON and found they do have mercy for recent EC grads after all. They require 360 additional clinical hours that can be completed in several ways. Thank goodness for that.

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Did you happen to ask what are the ways these 360 hours can be completed?

I have been bothered by the ban on Excelsior College graduates in California and was afraid there was no other option than to go through another ADN program. I made a call to the California BON and found they do have mercy for recent EC grads after all. They require 360 additional clinical hours that can be completed in several ways. Thank goodness for that.
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I have been bothered by the ban on Excelsior College graduates in California and was afraid there was no other option than to go through another ADN program. I made a call to the California BON and found they do have mercy for recent EC grads after all. They require 360 additional clinical hours that can be completed in several ways. Thank goodness for that.

That is good. Can you do this through a preceptor at a hospital? I see that there should be no issue with EC if one were to do 360 hour preceptorship. I am happy that you will be able to gain licensure in the state, as well as all others. Please post the details so others can become informed.

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I'm waiting to hear back from the licensing analyst. She is supposed to get back with me and tell me what my options are. I'll post them here.

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This is an interesting development. I really never had the desire to work in California. But I did wonder what would happen if I wanted to in 20 years or something. Had funny thoughts of myself as a FNP sitting in a classroom with beginning nursing students learning how to be a nurse again....and not as the teacher either.

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Your biggest problem is going to be finding places that will permit you to do the clinical part. This has been an issue with other states as well. Excelsior will depend on you to find your own preceptor and from a legal standpoint, you will find many difficulties with that.

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your biggest problem is going to be finding places that will permit you to do the clinical part. this has been an issue with other states as well. excelsior will depend on you to find your own preceptor and from a legal standpoint, you will find many difficulties with that.

this was taken directly from the kansas bon website:

"three kansas nursing programs have developed clinical courses for students who were enrolled in the excelsior nursing program as of february 16, 2005. the nursing programs are located at fort scott community college, neosho community college, and pratt community college. for further information regarding the clinical course contact these nursing programs or the board of nursing (785) 296-3782. the clinical course will be available for at least 2 years (2005-2006). other programs may have clinical course opportunities available for you."

these clinical courses are provided to the 58 kansas ec students free of charge over the next two years as compensation for these students being told by the ks bon that they would be eligible for licensure before they started ec and then changed the rules mid-way through their studies or sometime before graduating and taking their nclex exam.

the ks bon allows other options as well, such as getting licensed in another state and putting in 1000 clinical hours as an rn, then endorsing into ks.

i'm gussing that ca is probably offering something similar, though i doubt they will pay for it since they at least had the decency to give advance notice of a cut-off date and ks changed their rules overnight and left many students stuck in the middle.

what other states has this been an issue? i'm not finding anything else.

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this was taken directly from the kansas bon website:

"three kansas nursing programs have developed clinical courses for students who were enrolled in the excelsior nursing program as of february 16, 2005. the nursing programs are located at fort scott community college, neosho community college, and pratt community college. for further information regarding the clinical course contact these nursing programs or the board of nursing (785) 296-3782. the clinical course will be available for at least 2 years (2005-2006). other programs may have clinical course opportunities available for you."

these clinical courses are provided to the 58 kansas ec students free of charge over the next two years as compensation for these students being told by the ks bon that they would be eligible for licensure before they started ec and then changed the rules mid-way through their studies or sometime before graduating and taking their nclex exam.

the ks bon allows other options as well, such as getting licensed in another state and putting in 1000 clinical hours as an rn, then endorsing into ks.

i'm gussing that ca is probably offering something similar, though i doubt they will pay for it since they at least had the decency to give advance notice of a cut-off date and ks changed their rules overnight and left many students stuck in the middle.

what other states has this been an issue? i'm not finding anything else.

i think she was meaning california not kansas. i highly agree that california will not do it free of charge because as you pointed out they gave notice with a final enrollment date. i really hope that all who need licensure in this state can find some way to do these clinical hours...it sure beats doing an entire program over!

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I think she was meaning California not Kansas. I highly agree that California will not do it free of charge because as you pointed out they gave notice with a final enrollment date. I really hope that all who need licensure in this state can find some way to do these clinical hours...it sure beats doing an entire program over!

Oh I know she was referring to CA. I was only pointing out that the Kansas BON is being pro-active and assisting in helping EC students to get their clinical hours in to meet requirements.

She was stating that you'd be left on your own to find your own preceptor (which may very well be the case in CA) but I was just pointing out that KS is actually helping students meet their clinical requirements and not leaving them to fend for themselves altogether.

I thought that maybe what the previous poster was referring to by the CA BON saying that there are options out there for EC students that maybe it would be similar to what KS is doing.

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If it was that near to impossible to find a preceptor I'm surprised California would even mention it.

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If it was that near to impossible to find a preceptor I'm surprised California would even mention it.

I think you will be able to find one. Deaconess students are able to arrange preceptors and I think you should also. The insurance may be an issue but perhaps if it is a place you intend to work at they will be more willing to help. It is not like you are a new nurse or had no nursing background. Let us know the options when you find them out so others can be aware that they also have this alternative.

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The money is not really an issue for me. If I have to pay for it so what? I've paid a lot more for less in my time, I'm sure.

360 hrs. doesn't seem like a monumental task. I think Washington state requires about the same amount of hours.

Hope I hear from this woman soon.

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