Published Aug 28, 2005
IvoryLena
83 Posts
During my first semester one of my peers was kicked out for not passing a calculations test. She already was working in home health and a high A on all of her test and did great in clinical. The only thing she failed was a single calculations test which was the first calculations test we ever took. Come to find out prior semester students were allowed to retake the test and get tutoring by instructors. She just needed a little help with the math but instead they failed her at the very end of the semester after she had done all the work for funds! I really felt quite bad for her, she would have had a better grade than I did!
Second semester, One of my fellow peers who had been a bad teen was kicked out for have a criminal record as a minor. Instead of telling him they werent going to let him go to clinicals and pass meds they let him get all the way through fundamentals and then in adult one said sorry your out of the program. An he talked to the nursing dean about his record before entering the program and she had no problems!:angryfire
RosesrReder, BSN, MSN, RN
8,498 Posts
Ok, I could understand the second instance somewhat. You should never keep your criminal record a secret becuase the consequences can get ugly. I feel bad for him though.
The first one seems a bit extreme, but that is just my opinion. I could see if she was failing everything and missing lots of school etc. There might be more to the story than you might know.
luvdancink
64 Posts
They failed many students in my program over the dosage calculations exam. You had to get 100% or you were out. There were many people who only got 90% and they were out no questions asked. I always felt the dosage calc policies were too strict. I knew going into the exam that those were the consequences, that I was soo nervous I almost made a mistake by rounding off a tenth. Thank goodness I caught it before I turned my exam in or I'd have been out too.
~Kristy
Fun2, BSN, RN
5,586 Posts
I shouldn't have read this thread.
As if I'm not going to be nervous enough...now I have to wonder if I will get kicked out due to a calculations test!
Tests do not determine how well someone knows something....they only determine how well that person can be tested!
I shouldn't have read this thread. As if I'm not going to be nervous enough...now I have to wonder if I will get kicked out due to a calculations test!Tests do not determine how well someone knows something....they only determine how well that person can be tested!
Exactly. Just like some people are book smart but lack common sense. :)
Bluewombat
12 Posts
gees that's rough ...but Ican tell you a story of a collegue who got kicked out because he did a stupid thing...and was he pretending to be a corpse.... I kid you not! He got all the way to the morgue and thought he'd best hop off the slab before the put him into the fridge...well the orderly nearly had a heart attack ....but saw the funny side...but the After hours supervisor sprung him without shoes and asked the question....subsequently he got booted from his nursing course....there is a happy ending...he did manage to get into nursing again and became a fully fledge RN and has excelled......took a few years but he was very determined.......he is a great guy....just has a warped sense of humour...unfortunately I can relate to it DOH!!!!
Kelly_the_Great
553 Posts
Okay, I'm sure there are going to be ppl out there that don't agree with this reasoning...However, what I think is unfair and illogical is that they don't allow the students to use resources while taking these exams.
By resources, I mean conversion tables, formulas, etc.
Now, I know the argument is, "well, they don't let you use those things while taking the NCLEX, so we want to prepare you." Well, I think that's unfair as well!
In practice, you're going to use your resources (I know I do). Often, I have a co-worker double check even.
I don't know about you guys but I'd lot rather have a nurse, pharmacist, doctor, etc. that knew how to and would use their resources and double check themselves for accuracy than one that thought the "knew it all" in their heads!
sunnyjohn
2,450 Posts
gees that's rough ...but Ican tell you a story of a collegue who got kicked out because he did a stupid thing...and was he pretended to be a corpse.... I kid you not! He got all the way to the morgue and thought he'd best hop off the slab before the put him into the fridge...well the orderly nearly had a heart attck ....but saw the funny side...but the After hours supervisor sprung him without shoes and asked the question....subsequently he got booted from his nursing course....there is a happy ending...he did manage to get into nursing again and became a fully fledge RN and has excelled......took a few years but he was very determined.......he is a great guy....just has a warped sense of humour...unfortunately I can relate to it DOH!!!!
Okay ... that was TOO FUNNY! :rotfl:
LauraF, RN, ASN, CNA, LPN, RN
568 Posts
The dosage calculation thing is tough. And I can say that after passing my last one. We had to take a dosage calculations test for each class. You pass it at 100% or you can not pass meds at clinical which then means you fail clinical, you fail clinical you fail the course.
But think about it this way, a nurse needs to be able to pick up on medication errors. It could be terribly detremental to the patients health. So it is a good idea when you look at it that way. I mean if you look at it, the student got 9/10, how would you like to have been the 10 med pass, the one she got wrong?
Just my way of looking at it. :sofahider
Okay, I'm sure there are going to be ppl out there that don't agree with this reasoning...However, what I think is unfair and illogical is that they don't allow the students to use resources while taking these exams.By resources, I mean conversion tables, formulas, etc.Now, I know the argument is, "well, they don't let you use those things while taking the NCLEX, so we want to prepare you." Well, I think that's unfair as well!In practice, you're going to use your resources (I know I do). Often, I have a co-worker double check even. I don't know about you guys but I'd lot rather have a nurse, pharmacist, doctor, etc. that knew how to and would use their resources and double check themselves for accuracy than one that thought the "knew it all" in their heads!
I think you have a valid and reasonable point. Too bad there is so much competition and limited space.
Most of the people I see fail the course because of the math could easily be tutored and master the math no problem. I was really shocked cause The girl i was talking about eariler when I post told no one she was having trouble in the math untill she failed out. She didnt really think they would fail a A student for one little math test. Mostly she thought this cause everything is pass or fail in the nursing program. Every skill you do you have to master or you fail. She simply thought you would be able to retake it, like retesting a skill. An the math really isnt that hard at all, so all you new students dont worry to much about it. BUT IF YOU DO HAVE PROBLEMS SEEK HELP IMMEDIATLY! dont wait tell your instructors or peers and you should have no problem.
True immediate help should be seeked. By the way, did the girl apply elsewhere or is she giving up nursing for good? I am sure the experience has her bummed.