There is a student in my program who never comes to class, except on days of tests and presentations, she even has other students drop off her assignmnets. She was at one Patho, and one mental health class the whole semester. I don't know how she passes (I know that she does with very poor marks). I was wondering if there are other students who you know of who do this.
I know that every student misses class on occasions, but not every class. She has never missed a clincial day.
She was almost caught last year when she was not signed up for a group and met with the program co-ordiantor in which she outright lied to them and they bought it.
How condifdent would you be with her as your nurse.
I go to a CC and they have enforced a new attendance policy. It doesn't affect me because I have only missed 2 classes ( my brain needed a break). I could care less if students don't come to class, the only time it bothers me is when it's someone I'm friends with and something might have happened to them. I figure if you don't know the material, you'll fail. If you can learn it on your own do your thang!
I am one of those students who misses quite a bit of class. I have some health problems, as well as elderly parents, one of whom is in and out of the hospital in another city.
I don't want to miss class, but sometimes I have to put my parents and my health first. I have come to clinicals in so much pain that I have cried in the restroom, but clinical attendance is mandatory. i didn't plan for these diversions to happen, and I am proud that I have continued my education despite them.
I have been discussed in class, talked down to and generally been treated horribly by some students because of my absences.
My point is this: I am the one that has to work harder, and play catch up." I maintain a high "B' overall average.
Plae don't judge, sometimes there are legitimite reasons someone misses class, and for the most part they have to work harder to maintain and retain grades and knowledge.
Just my view,
K-
Absolutely KK--I know exactly what you mean. You don't know the other student's situation and the student might have made arrangements with the instructors and the school ahead of time so please don't knock the student. One student I went to class with was having some emotional problems which surfaced especially during our psych rotation and she made special arrangements. It's really none of anyone elses business. You're there to learn and not to judge others.
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There is a student in my program who never comes to class, except on days of tests and presentations, she even has other students drop off her assignmnets. She was at one Patho, and one mental health class the whole semester. I don't know how she passes (I know that she does with very poor marks). I was wondering if there are other students who you know of who do this.
I know that every student misses class on occasions, but not every class. She has never missed a clincial day.
She was almost caught last year when she was not signed up for a group and met with the program co-ordiantor in which she outright lied to them and they bought it.
How condifdent would you be with her as your nurse.
Just venting,
Kristen
I used to work with a co-worker who missed every class except the exam days (confirmed by another coworker who was a classmate of this guy) because he already had all these nursing skills taught by his LVN teacher (learned them through the U.S. Army). Was he incompetent? Actually, it was the opposite. A little too good with his nursing skills and was hated by my other coworkers.
Tardies are my pet peeve. How dare the same students arrive late to class - to an auditorium-style classroom, and disturb the rest of the class. Grrrrrr. :angryfire
They are my pet peeve too. In my biology class only 3 people would show up on time the rest wouldn't show up until the last 5 min of lecture. One day I said you should just start kicking students out of the class who do that like my english instructor does. The biology instructor thought that was a good idea, but this girl who was friends with the late students and was often late herself said: I guess you don't work so you don't know what it is like to work and be a student. (I was 8 months pregnant at the time.) I looked at her and I said, that is the sorriest excuse I have ever heard. This class doesn't start until 10:00 am I used to work full time as a waitress and not finish until 11pm and I still made it to school at 7AM. Not to mention I am pregnant now and I don't have a car, and I don't live across the street. If I can wake up and walk the 20 minutes it takes to get to school and still be on time, you have no excuses for tardiness! :argue:
I wouldn't be too happy having a nurse (or even a doctor, dentist, surgeon, etc.) responsible for me (my family and/or my friends) who managed to (barely) make it through nursing school by achieving the bare minimum, not because she wasn't capable of doing better, but because she either was too lazy or didn't care enough to at least attempt to do her best.
She was almost caught last year when she was not signed up for a group and met with the program co-ordiantor in which she outright lied to them and they bought it.
I'm also bothered by the fact that she lied to cover her @$$.
You'd think that she'd at least have the professional courtesy to fess up for her own mistakes in the academic world. I worry what she'll do if she forgets about her patients or messes up in the real world afterwards... will she try to weasel herself out of the situation by lying about it? Or will she at least have the guts to accept responsibility for her own decisions and actions?
WOW!! I have never heard of NOT going to classes and passing nursing school. In our school we have 6 total days we are allowed to miss per level (each level is about 6-7 months). We are only allowed to miss 3 clinical days and then we are OUT of the program!! The only way our absences are excused is if we are admitted to the hospital. I had to have 2 kidney surgeries while in school and if I hadn't gone back THE DAY I was discharged I would have been OUT of the program! Our school was VERY strict on attendance and we lost about 4 of our original 29 due to attendance.
There is a student in my program who never comes to class, except on days of tests and presentations, she even has other students drop off her assignmnets.
Our school's policy was set in stone. Miss more than a week of class (2 clinical days, two lectures, one lab) and flunk the class. No exceptions. This meant that students flunked who were in car accidents, had dying parents, broken foot (thus couldn't fit their foot into a shoe for clinicals). Oh well, no exceptions. We also needed a 70% average on all tests (not just in the class) to pass and people were flunked for half a point.
I don't care if people don't come to class....it only bothers me when they come late and make a bunch of noise. Or ask the teacher about something he said earlier but they weren't there to hear it. If people can't make it to class on time because of other things in their life, then they need to find a class time that is better for them.
a) when it's me they are asking for notes/help (I have enough on my plate, thank you very much)
b) when they complain about how "unfair" it is when they don't do well (sorry, I don't have time to listen, I have a class to go to)
It's annoying, but just realize how much more you are getting out of the class than the students who don't show up.
I agree - and the OP pointed out that this person HAS OTHERS DROP OFF ASSIGNMENTS FOR HER, and apparently missed being assigned to a group project and managed to get out of it.
I completed my BS by examination (and achieved three A's and one B in HR Management, Organizational Behavior, Abnormal Psych, and Russian History from Nicholas II), which definitely proves to me that lecture isn't necessarily what it's cracked up to be in some cases, but I wouldn't have the nerve to have someone else turn in my work for me - unless it was an emergency.
Her scruples come into question based on what the OP is saying. And if her grades are bad besides....
I am one of those students who misses quite a bit of class. I have some health problems, as well as elderly parents, one of whom is in and out of the hospital in another city.
I don't want to miss class, but sometimes I have to put my parents and my health first. I have come to clinicals in so much pain that I have cried in the restroom, but clinical attendance is mandatory. i didn't plan for these diversions to happen, and I am proud that I have continued my education despite them.
I have been discussed in class, talked down to and generally been treated horribly by some students because of my absences.
My point is this: I am the one that has to work harder, and play catch up." I maintain a high "B' overall average.
Plae don't judge, sometimes there are legitimite reasons someone misses class, and for the most part they have to work harder to maintain and retain grades and knowledge.
Just my view,
K-
Legitimate reasons are one thing. Your grades speak volumes that this other person doesn't seem to have. I commend you for your perseverance!!
My program has a pretty strict attendance policy. You have to 95% attendance in lecture/lab and 97% in clinicals to to graduate. We can make up clinicals at the cost of $25/hour.
Tardiness is counted by the hour.....of you're 5 minutes late, you've lost an hour and those can add up...... this goes for class/lab/clinicals. Sleep is also counted as absence. The tardy/sleep policy wasn't enforced during class until it became a problem with a couple of people and it got disruptive.
I have 100% attendance. Like one of the other responders, I pay attention in class and it cuts down on the time I have to actually spend studying. Considering I'm either in school, at clinicals or on the road 10 hour/day, M-F, the less studying the better..... I have kids and hate missing their activities.
I would agree with some previous postings in that people are too quick to judge and point the finger at those who don't come to class on a regular basis. The underlying presumption is "He or she must be lazy, or that they think they can get by on other people's notes or work". I cannot stress how hurtful this assumption can be.
I don't go to many of my lectures because of a chronic disability which leaves me with very little energy; however, I am far from lazy. Many of my classmates shake their fingers at me when I show up for examinations, saying "shame on you". The problem I have with this is that not one of these people bothered to try to understand why I was not attending class. I would shamefully admit that I had medical issues and they would look at me sort of blankly as if this concept was entirely off their radar screen.
I am an extremely conscientious person, and maintain an 80+ average. I never, never miss clinicals and receive outstanding evaluations. Most of my time is spent recovering from the few days of clinical per week which I throw my whole self into. This is the most difficult thing I have ever worked through, and I know that there are many of my classmates that look at me with disdain. It really hurts - especially when you have a disability that is not readily visible to the whole world. And I am terrified that I will not make it in the real world of nursing - the whole 12 hour shift thing is daunting.
Well, I'll get down off my soap box now. Thanks for bringing up this topic.
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I go to a CC and they have enforced a new attendance policy. It doesn't affect me because I have only missed 2 classes ( my brain needed a break). I could care less if students don't come to class, the only time it bothers me is when it's someone I'm friends with and something might have happened to them. I figure if you don't know the material, you'll fail. If you can learn it on your own do your thang!