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I am having an ethical dilemma. There are several students in our class that have most of the answers for every test. Just about everyone in the class is now aware of this and think it is unfair. Noone wants to bring it to light because they don't want the teacher to make it hard on everyone for what time is left in the program. I keep telling myself that it will get them in the end, when they can't pass the HESI or the boards. But the truth is, about half of them will pass it with no problem. They may all pass. What irritates me is that some have gone from C students to A students, one very well could end up valedictorian, they cheat and then brag about their grades to everyone, spend all weekend with their families doing fun stuff (not studying) while i'm busting my tail to do it the right way! So, what would you do?
This is staring to sound like an argument.... You have to do what you feel is right if you think that they are cheating and you feel that its not fair I would approach the.students and tell them that you will give them a chance to correct the issue.or you will have to speak up. Personally I'm not one to care if my peers think I'm cool cheating is cheating period, I don't like when people cut me in line so please believe if one of my peers is cheating and making it clear as day to.every one else I'm going to pull their card. Just my take but like I said at first it all depends on how deeply you feel about it .
I was in a class one time where three or four students were caught cheating on a test. The instructor rewarded their cheating by requiring them to take the test over, so they had ample time to study. Everyone else in the class who discussed it, was of the opinion that the instructor should have taken harsher action. You can't be responsible for what the instructor does or does not do once you have reported it.
OMG this is lame on your part. So what answers to previous test questions and others notes. I guess these answers are based on the last people who remembered a few test questions word for word. Seriously how accurate can that really be? If these people really remember stuff word from word which would be amazing and the questions are the same who is really to blame here. Sounds like your getting cheated with your education from having lazy teachers.Cheating IMO is gaining access to the actually test before u take it or cheating during the actually test. Nothing outside that and I mean NOTHING outside that is cheating.
Let me ask you something would you not use the notes or test questions for study material had they been available to you?
Finally! someone agrees with me!-- i'm not from the US, but sometimes the teachers recycle questions. What is wrong with using the previous years test to study? The nursing school that reuses tests are just plain stupid. they are stuck in the past century--- we are in the information age, so if I don't want to read from THEIR recommended anatomy/physio/gerantology etc' text book ($$$$$) but another--- I will. I get the right answers either way.
Report it... anonymously if you have to. no one will know that it was you so you don't have to have the weight of that on your shoulders. It's simply ridiculous that they have to cheat on every single exam like this, and they may continue to do so through graduation. Is there anyone else in your class who disagrees with the cheating? Get together with them and report it together. Create an anonymous email address if you have to. If your prof doesn't do anything, see what the dean thinks. These are people who will be working a job where integrity means the difference between life and death at times. I hate the fact that people like you and me will be competing for jobs with people like this.
Who knows? Maybe your prof will simply change the exam and then their cheating won't really matter.
I got what u huff and puffed about the first time. How did this person write down every question I mean really was the teacher in on it too? Who can write down every test question from each test? Give us the answer to that.
They don't write the questions during the test. For instance, once I take the test, I remember 90 percent of the questions. You don't have to know all the questions word by word. I always say, i dont remember anything.So yes, it is very possible to write all the questions down. I know some people who pretend to be sick or have a flat tire everytime we have a test(same people).They do this because they have a friend who took the test on the same day and they tell them all the questions/answers. I know this bc these people call and ask me what was on the test.
I have not read all of the responses, so forgive me if I duplicate.Get used to it now, because you are going to face this issue in your nursing practice. By most nursing standards, if you do not report others' problematic behavior, your license is also in jeopardy.
Unfortunately, since reporting errors usually ends in some form of discipline, rather than education or rehabilitation, many nurses just hide the problem and hope it goes away. Who wants to lose their job because the technically broke some rule or standard?
The other thing I have observed over the years, is the "shoot the messenger" syndrome--many times management retaliates against the person who brought the problem to their attention, so do you risk management's wrath, or try to correct a problem?? It has happened to me more times than I can count, so many that I think some management use it as a "tool" to discourage people from making waves.
You are not legally responsible for reporting rumor, only events you witnessed.
Rumor isn't permitted in a court of law either.
OMG you so misinterpreted what I said! Let me break it down for you. A student in the program last year, at the end of every test, wrote down the answers to that test, then passed it down to a student in the program this year. The tests have not changed, therefore it is the actual test.And I did have access if I wanted it, but I am not a cheater, and I refused.
So she had a photographic memory and you were in class after she took the test and saw her write the answers down????
AMAZING!
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