What happened to all the Walden Haters?

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Several years ago I got into some heated arguments with people on this sight about Walden University, and their quality of education or legitimacy. I Don't hear much about that anymore.

Well let me just give a little update after almost 4 years after graduating Walden's FNP program. After graduation, licensure, and certification (ten days after graduation without a prep course) I went to work with my last preceptor in a family practice clinic. I worked very hard, and learned a great deal. I did some overtime and made almost $130,000 my first year out of school. My next year, I was given a satellite clinic on my own, and built it up That second year I made $157,000 in salary. After 2 years in family practice, I began to get a little bored, and decide to move into emergency medicine.

I took a job in a critical access hospital in Montana, became ATLS and NRP certified and started working ER as a sole provider in this rural community. My first year of that I made $161,000. Mainly though, I got a massive amount of experience and knowledge from this first ER gig. Ultimately, I started doing a little Locums work on the side, and realized that not only did I enjoy locums work, but there was a huge demand for locums ER providers.

Within a few months, I went out on my own as a private contractor working locums assignments all over the US. I have numerous state licenses, and have many ongoing contracts with small critical access hospital in many states. Also, I work telemedicine in 5 different states. This year I have made $200,000, with 9 weeks off so far and have 10 days planned off around the holidays. I work when I want to, and I am my own boss.

My point in all of this is...; My Walden education experience was a good one. I got what I needed to be successful in my profession. Don't let people tell you what you can and can't do. Decide what you want to do and do it! Don't let peoples opinion dictate your life, they don't get to live your life.

Ironically, I heard a lot of skeptics talk about how it would be hard to find a job after graduation from Walden University......NOPE, not one time have I had a single issue in finding a job, or negotiating a contract due to where I went to school. In fact, no one has ever even asked where I went to school. However, when I was sitting in an interview with a CEO a couple of years ago, I happened to look on her wall where there just happened to be a diploma from Walden University hanging. We talked about our common alumnus status for a brief moment, then I signed the contract.So maybe, just maybe, my Walden affiliation HELPED me get employed....who knows?

Wow, you just made me a believer. A nurse friend of mine got her MSN ( I believe) from them and I was concerned that places wouldn't accept her degree. she was already working anyway so I never inquired anymore about if her job would accept it or not. You hear so many horror stories about online degrees. I am glad that you proved people wrong. Congrats!

Hello and Congrats on your successes! I am a current Walden student and find the program challenging and I am learning so much. I do enjoy it. I compared Waldens Classes to other Psych NP programs..classes are the same.

Clinical hours the same.. I think people have issue with for profits..but everyone is entitled to their opinion. No matter what school you attend it is ultimately up to the individual to be the best practitioner they can..regardless of school... One can go to a prestigious school and still be an awful practitioner and vice versa.... I ask very happy thus far with Walden... Tuition comparable with every other program I looked into... And many NP programs Do not offer clinical placement assistance... brick and mortar too...

Specializes in Critical care.

I will start my MSN - FNP at Walden University next year. I got accepted to some brick and mortar school, but I chose Walden ultimately because the schedule fits my life very well. I can still work and study and have a life at the same time. Other school requires me to attend class once to two times a week and very far away from my home. I have a house and mortgage to pay so moving is not an option.

I have read many bad posts about Walden. However, they don't matter to me because Walden is actually accredited by CCNE, and many students confirmed that the academic program at Walden is actually rigorous. The affordable tuition at Walden also is another factor that contributes to my decision. To me, your license of FNP and the actual knowledge you gain are what matter the most.

Specializes in Assistant Professor, Nephrology, Internal Medicine.
Wow, you just made me a believer. A nurse friend of mine got her MSN ( I believe) from them and I was concerned that places wouldn't accept her degree. she was already working anyway so I never inquired anymore about if her job would accept it or not. You hear so many horror stories about online degrees. I am glad that you proved people wrong. Congrats!

As mentioned before, this argument doesn't prove anything, other than for-profits can churn out grads that pass a board exam and get a job. Monetary success DOES NOT measure clinician skill. Of course, there will be good clinicians from these programs- those clinicians are not the problem. The real problem is the shear lack of admission, progression and retention standards that allow poor candidates to ultimately get their license. The boards are not difficult IMO. Many individuals argue board pass rates are acceptable from these institutions, again, this DOES NOT correlate to being a good clinician.

Though the OPs story of success is good, he failed to make a tangible link as to why Walden was the key to his success. More than likely, he was at least a decent clinician and spent a vast amount of time trying to understand the science and clinical application that he did not.

So once again, my opinion is the exact same of for-profits. If for-profits stopped the notion to take everyone and anyone (which basically is the economical and philosophical underpinning of for-profits), then maybe they would have more respect.

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.

I'm just not impressed with CCNE accreditation at all. It's important, I get that, because all the national NP certification boards require schools to be CCNE accredited for their grads to sit for the certification exam. To me, it seem like any school offering baccalaureate to DNP programs sends in a check, an on-site inspection happens (whatever that entails), and the CCNE "badge of honor" is granted.

It also baffles me how CCNE accreditation only states the degrees that are accredited and not specific NP tracks. For instance, Walden is accredited for its baccalaureate, master's, and DNP programs. That designation does not specify which particular tracks passed the standards, did CCNE specifically look into the FNP program and decided it met standards? I have to trust that this is the case when they were last accredited in April 2010 and was given up to the year 2020 for when their next inspection is up. However, how can they now offer a brand new PMHNP track? and their AGACNP track started after 2010?

Were these new NP tracks evaluated before they start admitting students? It seems to me (unless someone else can clarify), that schools can skirt CCNE accreditation rules so easily. We really do not have a specific accreditation entity specific to NP programs just like CRNA's and CNM's - that to me, is a big issue!

Specializes in Emergency Room.

I agree with you and unfortunately since being an NP is the hot career right now, even the schools that have decent reputations are making their students find their own preceptors due to not being able to keep up woth the demand. Most learning does not seem to really happen until we graduate. The clinical hours required in my opinion is really not enough to be confident out of school so many new nurses and NP's rely on their first job to help them be minimally confident. Hats off to the OP, I do not think any of this success would have been achieved without ambition and self direction.

I am looking into walden as well, what was the cost total for you? time commitment per week on average? did you work full time? ill have to. is it accepted for licensing in California and texas? good to know it didn't matter for post degree employement. I am debating between them and uta, but uta has a confusing admissions form question, I cant get anyone there to return my emails or calls, kinda concerning for if I have problems later on in the program, walden seems attentive so far.

do you feel walden had you adequately prepared for your boards with the course schedule or did you need to do a lot of extra reading during the semester? any insight into going strait into emergency room as an fnp or should I do acute care np? ive only ever worked emergency room as a nurse, but im kinda thinking fnp would keep my options open, do most emergency rooms care if your acute car np versus fnp? I know ive asked a lot of questions, any insight you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Specializes in HIV.

ranaesx4, if you are confused by an admissions question, you may want to reconsider a career as a nurse practitioner/healthcare provider. Seriously.

Specializes in Emergency Dept, ICU.

I am applying to Walden as well as 4 other schools now. Walden is my back up plan. I agree the daily phone calls are monotonous but once you speak with someone the calls drop off. I suspect I'll have to explain an F I made in chemistry 15 years ago but no big deal. Well see how things go.

I am applying to Walden as well as 4 other schools now. Walden is my back up plan. I agree the daily phone calls are monotonous but once you speak with someone the calls drop off. I suspect I'll have to explain an F I made in chemistry 15 years ago but no big deal. Well see how things go.

As long as your tuition payments clear you'll be good to go...

Specializes in Certified Family Nurse Practitioner.

Sadly, the academic bigots on this sight believe in their hearts that the school that one attends will have any real bearing on the overall clinical competency of the nurse practitioner. Well, whatever. I really don't care other from a purely amusement standpoint. An intelligent person, one who really wants to learn....can, and will learn. The conduit by which that happens is irrelevant. as far as I am concerned, you can continue to believe in your empty superiority, and I will just quietly continue to be successful... Well, maybe not so quietly.

Specializes in Certified Family Nurse Practitioner.

Impressed or not impressed, I don't think your awe of the CCNE, (or lack there of) will have any influence on the process. As I have said in the past, CCNE is the current bellwether for accreditation. Your "opinion" of it's standards are absolutely, and irrevocably of NO consequence. Unless you have another solvent argument about the quality of education at Walden, why don't you just be wrong silently.

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