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athomas91 · Feb 3, 2004

read over the all the posts of the OP in order....

the point of the conversation has changed w/ each one along w/ the OP's "calling"

one time the OP states they want to be humble servants, then they say they are "god".....

the OP is obviously just trying to get everyone's feathers ruffled...so, let's not give them the opportunity.

and truly - if anyone were so blind as to think that a higher degree was about "power", is that discussion really worth our time??

SmilingBluEyes · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by athomas91
read over the all the posts of the OP in order....
the point of the conversation has changed w/ each one along w/ the OP's "calling"
one time the OP states they want to be humble servants, then they say they are "god".....

the OP is obviously just trying to get everyone's feathers ruffled...so, let's not give them the opportunity.

and truly - if anyone were so blind as to think that a higher degree was about "power", is that discussion really worth our time??

exactly right. They are crystal clear, the intentions of this person. I have better things to worry about ..

Peeps Mcarthur · Feb 3, 2004

I agree, but I was hopeful to discuss at least one of my points. It is frustrating to have a point (even if you're cukoo for cocoa puffs) and not get a forum for expressing it.

Alas.............it's like raising your voice in a canyon and never hearing an echo.:)

Too bad.

ADNRN · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by LPN2Be2004
Your arrogance and superiority complex are beyond ridiculous. And i refuse to waste anymore of my time readin anything you post or thread-start; life is way too short to feed into. Welcome to my ignore list.

So, I'm arrogant and have a superiority complex and that makes me ridiculous. Of course, I never attacked you personally as you are doing to me. I never insulted you or called you names.

So, see you later.

ADNRN · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by Peeps Mcarthur
By ADRN

So.............you're afraid of becoming a glorified coffee fetcher? Or is it just that you have no desire to serve mankind with more sacrifice? You've given enough of your time to learning academicly and you'll just have to let someone else carry the load for the lord?

That's why its ok to quit trying to achieve a higher goal?

You're the one hell-bent on finding prestige. I'm just saying you may not feel all that prestigious as a PA. You might find that you had more prestige as an RN.

As for me, it's simple. I'm going to be a staff nurse for the next 30 years. I'm going to work ICU and stepdown. I don't care about furthering my academic career to fulfill my calling. I don't have to. I have all the education I need for my calling. If God's calling you to be a PA, then be one. If that's the case, then you need to go to PA school. If, on the other hand, you are becoming a PA because you perceive it as being more prestigious than being an RN, you might be disappointed.

ADNRN · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by bluesky
All I can say is, I don't see how you can assess my goals/ambitions/values based on my degree. Nobody's disagreeing that empathy and compassion are of primary importance in nursing. But it sounds like you're trying to say that as a BSN, I am power and status seeking and I have to say that you don't live in my heart. How do you know?

Bluesky, I don't know. Why do you feel convicted by what I wrote? If you don't feel convicted, why are you acting like I wrote the original post strictly about you? :confused:

ADNRN · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by sagarcia210
To the original poster,
If it weren't for the BSN/MSN or higher, you would not be an ADNRN. Remember, it takes all levels of nurses to make nursing happen. So, I suggest you make sure your foot is clean, because I believe it is in your mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know what? You're absolutely right.

What's sad is that it's not enough for you to be right--you have to be offensive as well. It's not enough for you to correct my misconception, you have to make sure I feel bad about myself, too. It seems like wisdom is wasted on you, because when you have it, you use it to harm others. That's really too bad, in my opinion.

But you are right.

ADNRN · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by Peeps Mcarthur
I agree, but I was hopeful to discuss at least one of my points. It is frustrating to have a point (even if you're cukoo for cocoa puffs) and not get a forum for expressing it.

Alas.............it's like raising your voice in a canyon and never hearing an echo.:)

Too bad.

What are you trying to discuss? I've answered every reply you've posted. What do you want to talk about? :confused:

live4today, RN · Feb 3, 2004

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crankyasanoldma · Feb 3, 2004

In the interest of clarity, I ran this through babblefish (translator service) from English to Spanish and back again. I really think it helped. Here is the translation:

The Post of the position #1

How do we seek the position. Obtain the LPN so that you be better than the ANC, obtains the ANC so that you are better than the housewife of house. Obtain the RN so that you be better than the LPN, ANC or houskeeper. Obtain the BSN so that you be better than the DNA, and obtain the MSN so that you are better than barely the BSN ordinary. But many persons have MSNs so leaves nurse entirely and comes he to be a NP AND then goes for the PhD, but not for there! One really needs are also a man of the academy of American of nurses and have a national certification. But then you need that a work goes with all that, so goes works for the government or some editorial board of some newspaper of nurse is mounted, or seeks for dollars of investigation in a university. You any you cause does the large one corcovéa, because that is how really shows is it better than barely a caregiver during the night.

Me do not obtain wrong, I am all about the power and the position I have just to want the true thing. I want that the Mother of the power and the position Teresa had.

kirbybunny · Feb 4, 2004

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Peeps Mcarthur · Feb 4, 2004

by adrn

As for me, it's simple. I'm going to be a staff nurse for the next 30 years. I'm going to work ICU and stepdown. I don't care about furthering my academic career to fulfill my calling. I don't have to. I have all the education I need for my calling. If God's calling you to be a PA, then be one. If that's the case, then you need to go to PA school. If, on the other hand, you are becoming a PA because you perceive it as being more prestigious than being an RN, you might be disappointed.

Never said I was doing it for the supposed prestige. One of your arguments was pursuit of prestige so I made a point with it.

Making it look as if I'm going for the PA for prestige by posting such a thing without a quote from me is simply side-stepping my point about getting off your butt and seeking the greatest knowledge level. Instead of talking great works......how about actualy pursuing them..........uhmmm? What is it that happened that killed that desire in you?

By not reading my posts and replying about the points I'm making you just seem to be opposing arguments I have never made.

Soooooo.........read my post and without just copying my post and making some obtuse statement; try to give us grounds for discussion.

OK?