is there a state with no nursing shortage

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How many applications usually can land you a job ? i am male lpn in state of ohio , have my lpn lincens in may since then i have place 42 applications so far 39 of them at LTC and 3 hospitals but no interview , some do write to me that no job now try 6 months later. Is normal for new grad in ohio to fill more than 42 applications to get a job?:zzzzz

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

Hi,

I don't know about Ohio but maybe you can repost this in the Ohio section to get more specific answers. One thing that I think is crucial is to get an interview. Just dropping off or emailing an application rarely gets a call back in my experience. Dress professionally, bring a resume and references and get some face time. Good luck!

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

When the nursing shortage is discussed, it tends to refer to RNs only. In some areas, there's a heavy surplus of LPNs and not enough jobs to go around for each person.

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Specializes in LTC, Psych, M/S.

I agree that there are areas of the u.s. that do not have a nursing shortage.....I just moved out of one of them and I know it is frustrating. I don't know about ohio. Maybe it is your resume - make sure you are using proper grammar and that it looks good, you maybe could get it evaluated by another person - I know there are 'employment coaches' who specialize in helping people with them.

If you are interested in relocating post your resume on yahoo hotjobs, monster.com and you will be contacted by recruiters, trust me. They can point you to where you can get a job.

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I'm in Ohio, too. Graduated in June and still not working. I have experience as a Medical Assistant, so I've had some doctor's office/clinic interviews. A lot of the nursing home around here (I live near Columbus) like you to drop your resume off in person. I agree to make sure your resume looks good and dress up. Our hospitals don't want to hire LPN's (very rarely anyway). It's been frustrating! After reading some of the forums I don't understand this...seems to me the hospitals would want to save some $. I'm looking into transitioning already...Anyway, Good Luck! I like the site indeed.com- it pulls jobs from monster, hospitaljobs (something like that), etc- you just put your zip in and the radius.

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I personally don't believe in the nursing shortage. It's artificially manufactured by RNs. There are plenty of LPNs that could be utilized but RNs prefer not.

I'm not RN bashing, I am a RN. It would be more cost efficient helping to subsidize upgrading of LPN skills either in-house or in jr. colleges than paying huge amounts of overtime and burning out RN staff.

Med Techs, who could still be utilized, have caused huge lawsuits in Illinois per their very limited education, this is not a good option.

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I personally don't believe in the nursing shortage. It's artificially manufactured by RNs. There are plenty of LPNs that could be utilized but RNs prefer not.

I'm not RN bashing, I am a RN. It would be more cost efficient helping to subsidize upgrading of LPN skills either in-house or in jr. colleges than paying huge amounts of overtime and burning out RN staff.

Med Techs, who could still be utilized, have caused huge lawsuits in Illinois per their very limited education, this is not a good option.

I agree with the above, except that I think the shortage was manufactured by hospital CEOs and administrators as a way to justify short staffing, and bringing in nurses from abroad.

Laura Gasparis-Vonfrolio RN, PhD wrote a great article years ago, with numbers, graphs, ect to back this up. It is called "Engineering a Crisis: How Hospitals Created A shortage of Nurses." It is a great article. It was published in a now defunct nursing empowerment journal I subscribed to. I can't find the article online.

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Could be except that many lawsuits have involved foreign born nurses to the extent that in the Chicagoland area, the larger more influential hospitals have really limited the use of them. They were brought here much more for hospitals much more in the 70s and 80s.

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
I'm in Ohio, too. Our hospitals don't want to hire LPN's (very rarely anyway). It's been frustrating! After reading some of the forums I don't understand this...seems to me the hospitals would want to save some $.

Ohio's LPN scope of practice is so restrictive that the RN would have to do plenty of covering for the LPN in the hospital setting. All blood products, IV meds, initial assessments, care planning, and other duties would legally have to be accomplished by the RN in the hospital setting, even though the patient belongs to the LPN. In other words, many hospitals in your state would rather have the RNs do it all because their scope of practice permits them.

In other states with virtually no restrictions on the LPN scope of practice, the situation is different. In my state of residence, the hospital LPN can function almost independently due to the wide open scope of practice here.

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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

While I can understand the fact that hospitals may not want to take on LPNs with their limited scopes of practice, I honestly believe that there is enough food at the table for all to partake. In addition, in some cases, it may not be the state that is limiting the scope of their LPNs, but the facilities themselves. Sometimes, they shoot themselves in the foot because of this.

It is interesting that some RN may not mind working with CNAs, who are even more limited in their scope of practice and are not even licensed, but are up in arms if an LPN is working under them.

One of the reasons why I strongly support team nursing is that it can allow the RN to delegate and then, be more available to assess and intervene while an LPN can perform the basic, mundane skills of nursing such as medication administration (that is under their scope of practice-such as if an LPN is not licensed to manover Central or PICC lines, IV push, etc...then, of course an RN has to do so), dressings, suctioning, and the LPN is trained to observe for signs and symptoms that need further assessment and intervention due to education of the disease processes. Also, with the redundant, repetative paperwork that takes the nurse further away from the bedside, it can allow the RN to do admissions, nursing diagnoses, care plans, discharges and such. As things stand now, too many RNs are already letting patient care go to the wayside-not by choice, but it is almost like saying that a man cannot serve two masters-he will hate one and love the other. Document care has taken over the bedside patient, because we risk our bread and butter, will appear in court behind what is not documented properly. Never mind the patient...the money mongers are more concerned with the almighty $$ than safer patient care. Let's not forget that the LPN is licensed also, and is responsible for his/her actions that are clearly negligent, unsafe and out of the scope of practice, and has to answer to the BON alone in that case. And, if we are all held to task for our actions, we'd all be a bit more careful and promote better patient safety. Just my rambling thoughts...

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

Coming from the perspective of a business owner as a positive financial move I'd be all over LPNs if I owned a hospital! They can do so much and sadly their pay rate is so much lower than RNs it would allow for more adequate staffing at close to the same budget as we operate on now. I don't get why they can't recognize this, seems like a no brainer to me.

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And if an organization were really interested in improving their staff quality, it would be the path of least resistance. LPNs could be brought "up to speed" faster and with more value. A step system could still be in place for those who have a hard time with being or not being the top dogs. RN 1, 2 or 3 depending on the level of education but the "shortage" would diminish.

Part of my premise is that there are those who don't want the shortage to end. I, myself, went through a period of being a martyr. My hospital couldn't abuse me enough, I felt that their whole existence, practically, depended on me. If I wasn't there to do those doubles and come in on my days off, the hospital couldn't operate. Those children, (I worked in Peds) couldn't do without me either. I learned differently, when life (my son needed me at home) interfered with my martyrdom.

So maybe one day, we'll unite. One of the Obama themes. Unity. It could happen though I'm not hopeful. Another of his themes. Hope.

Oh, well, Go Obama/Biden 08!!!

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