Spouses/Visitors In Patient's Beds

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I just finished a shift, where while giving report, once again the nurse I was reporting to blew a gasket when she discovered that one of the patient's boyfriends was in the bed with the patient. She had the same reaction last week when a patient had her husband in bed with her. She says it is inappropriate and unacceptable. I personally have no problem with it, as long as: they are acting appropriate, the patient wants the visitor in their bed, the patient is not in critical condition, the visitor is not impeding on patient's care, and there are no major open wounds/sources for infection.

I came home today searching all over the internet for some sort of policy guidance as to how other hospitals deal with this sort of thing and found nothing, so I decided to open this thread to see how you all felt about this situation.

Why do we think it's cute when a 90 year old lady curls up with her dying husband so he can finally get some rest, but flip out when its a 20 year old who finds comfort having her partner curled up beside them? Is this a privilidge that only belongs to the married, the dying, the heterosexual adult norm? What about the lesbian or gay couple... if you create a policy that says "married or spouses" then you've just excluded that population. It seems too situation specific to create a broad policy i.e. the reasons I stated above as contraindications or things like hospice or new baby as "acceptable".

But the problem comes that when there isn't a policy in place, and you have inconsitency in nursing judgement patient's get an unclear message. I can guarantee you that after I leave, that nurse will go in the room, chastize the visitor and make him get out of the bed. Then, I come on in the morning and suddenly it's okay? Mixed messages for sure.

My feelings are that allowing the visitor to share the bed with patient in "appropriate situations outlined above", regardless of marital status, sexual orientation, etc. the patient has the RIGHT to share their bed. It goes within the core values of nursing... THE RIGHT TO AUTONOMY, NON-MALEFICIENCE (damage their level of comfort or security and trust by being told no one can be in their bed) and BENEFICIENCE (if the patient is able to benefit from the comfort of the closeness of a loved one, a stuffed animal, a pet, (without causing harm) then it is our duty to respect this opportunity for improved outcomes.

Honestly, there's only been 2 nurses I've met who have problems with this. They both were super conservative, had some control issues, very opinionated, and were very outspoken. What are your thoughts on whether it is appropriate or not, or whether policies should be put in place? ~MN RN

I don't see how more than one person can fit in those beds....

i am totally shocked with all of your responses!!!!! when i see somebody in a pts bed, i kick them out and state not to do it again. if they repeat the behavior i kick them out of the room. this is not a hotel (like so many people believe), the pt is there to get well not to cuddle or have sex in their hospital bed.

on the other hand, end of life and children are a totally different story.

perhaps being cuddled, loved, and nurtured would help them to get well. i'm not advocating sex, but i don't see how a husband cuddling his wife affects you one iota, assuming factors stated in the op.

we would have a big pow wow with the supervisor on duty if you attempted to kick my husband out of my room for doing something so benign as cuddling in bed with me in order to give me affection and comfort.

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.
My hospital allows it, and as an employee of that hospital I allow it. I don't discriminate in any way. Man/woman woman/woman man/man child/adult old/young dog/patient.........No I did kick the dog out and sent it on it's way.

But, I consider it inappropriate.

"The times they are a-Changin"

When I was very young, I was VERY ill and in the hospital. Apparently nothing would console me. My father, who worked at the hospital I was in, smuggled my rather large boxer in under his coat so I could cuddle with my dog for a few minutes. The nurses all knew...can't hide a boxer, but they didn't say anything.

Some people crave the cuddle when they're sick.

But, falling outside an ICU and falling within the OPs list of conditions (no interrupting care and no danger to a non-critical patient), your attitude wouldn't fly unless there was a written policy backing it. I wouldn't have you in tears or anything, but I guarantee that you could present that attitude you did in your post, be as smug, commanding, shreiky, and holy as you wanted, but it would end with my loved one still in the bed and you not being my nurse anymore if you wouldn't back down and act like a professional.

Well said.

Specializes in Professional Development Specialist.

Well I have broken the rule. I got Noro once and it wouldn't go away. Literally 3 weeks later I was still throwing up every single thing I put into my stomach. I felt awful and after multiple ER and PCP visits there was no relief in site. I ended up in the hospital. I felt okay until I ate, and then I felt AWFUL. Spiked a temp, BP went up, felt jittery and panicked. Then I would vomit, but the other symptoms didn't go away. I was finally admitted and did ask my husband to please get into bed and snuggle me for a few minutes. Nothing relieved the symtoms I did feel a bit better when he was there holding me.

Now I walk into a pt and guest in bed often. Of course when they have been married 30+ years it is a bit more accepted. But I have also found siblings, adult children and good friends in patients beds. I never thought to be upset.

Specializes in ER, progressive care.

I do not have a problem with it, as long as they aren't having intercourse or anything like that, or if the patient isn't critically ill with lots of lines, tubes and drains coming out of them that could easily get pulled out...

Specializes in Pediatrics.
I don't see how more than one person can fit in those beds....

Now, I can agree with that statement! Hubby is post op day 3, and the best I can do is sit by his feet :)

BTW, no one has kicked me off the bed :)

Specializes in OB, ER.

I think it's okay if the patient is not critical, the visitor gets out of the way for assessment/procedures and most importantly the PATIENT wants it. I have often seen spouses in the bed because the chair wasn't comfy, they wanted a better view of the TV ect......if the motives are good go for. If it's for the visitors comfort no way.

The other day I walked into a psych pts room in the ER. The patient was anxious, standing in the corner and hyperventilating. The bed was being sat on by mom and sister and there purses. When I suggest the pt sit they kind of looked around like there aren't any chairs. I looked at mom and said I think he needs to sit can you give him room....she moved the purse two inches...really get the f up and let the patient get comfortable. Of course I was a b because I made her get up so the patient could get the care he was there for.

The health professional's responsibility is to pull the curtain, close the door, and let them do what they want.

They may be in your facility, but it sure ain't of their own free will. They need to live their own lives with their own rules as much as possible. That includes things regarding affection, snuggling, and sex (if the relationship is of that nature). These things are all considered human needs - not desires. Needs.

It's absolute cruelty to keep two loving people physically apart, especially when at least one - but probably both - will be dealing with very serious issues regarding illness or possibly life and death. Why add to that misery by making them feel more alone? Because it freaks YOU out to see them together? That's stunningly selfish.

Of course, it's different if the other person is causing danger - if the touching is not mutually agreed upon, if it's taking place in public in front of other patients, or if it could be physically dangerous for a realistic reason. But we're talking about two consenting adults. Common sense.

However, there are many pts that I have cared for that have insisted that their partners share the bed with them. Because we actually USE critical thinking skills as nurses, I believe strongly that we can make sound judgments based on our education, experience and common sense as to whether or not to permit partners sharing a bed.

absolutely.

you just simply cannot rubberstamp this decision as all or nothing/no one.

there are various factors that need to be considered, before allowing or not allowing.

example: last week i was in the hospital for overnight.

after surgery, i assume my bp was bottoming out since the bed was put in trendelenburg, and 4-5 nurses (?) were all working on me.

IN walks my very impatient husband, since i should have been out of surgery a couple of hrs earlier.

he pretty much walked right up to me (didn't give a **** who was doing what), leaned over, held my face in his hands and softly kissed me.

at that point, everything went back to normal.

i do remember feeling totally safe and comforted when i saw him.

coincidence that i stabilized? or was it my husband's therapeutic presence?

i would say the latter.

love heals, undoubtedly.

Hey, in nursing school they teach us that sexuality is a physiological need according to ole' Maslow... :)

Not that I totally agree with the whole Maslow thing, but I do think it's interesting how rarely sexuality is considered in patient care.

very true.

there have been a few times in inpatient hospice, that i have indeed set up a private and 'special' room (with wine/champagne present, in a romantic setting) at the request of a dying pt and his/her spouse...

just for "one last time". :(

again, it's about using our skilled judgment as nurses, and what/who benefits the patient most.

leslie

Can anyone give me an example policy there hospital has for this??? Evidenced based for infection risk??? THANKS!

Specializes in hospice.

I'm sorry this just drives me nuts....

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