Should this be reported??

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i have a "hypothetical" situation and i would like to get advice or feedback.

i have a friend who moved to another state and is a nurse. well here back in the "home" state i found out that her nursing license was suspended due to diversion ( not of narcotics, but one for a prescribed med and the other two were otc) and for falsifying work notes as well.

well she now lives in state b and has a current license in good standing. the two states are not part of a compact agreement.

should this be reported to state b or should i just let nature run its course and not say a word?

once again this is a hypothetical situation.

thanks!!!

nicenurse lpn

Specializes in Home Health.

Whoever she goes to work for will probably do a look up. Don't you think?

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
Public information on the states board of nursing website is how I found out Ruby.

NiceNuse LPN

Why would you even be looking someone up on the BON website?

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
lol no. i was on the website to renew my license. i dont know about other states but the information is public and you can do searches on all types of licenses. i wasnt "looking", it was there. i had already made up my mind not to say a word, b/c the individual involved is several states away and across the country. i thought that this situtation might make a good debate topic! and i didnt know that people would google other people on the first date!!

it's not "just there." you have to enter someone's name to see their licensure status.

What is this "hypothetical" "wink wink"? Does that mean it's real? Does that mean the "friend" is actually you? You seem to think this is funny, wink, wink. I think you need to stay out of this.

Specializes in Peds Homecare.

Here's the deal "wink, wink". Your hypothetical friend will get caught up with soon, "wink wink".

Sounds like you were looking, not once but twice. As was stated before, the only way you found this out was that you, "wink wink", put the person's name and occupation into the search. This is not a debate topic, it is a fraud being perpetrated by your "wink wink" hypothetical friend.

state a's nursing license was only very recently suspended. she has been living in state b for almost a year now. thanks for your reply!!!

nicenurse lpn

seriously, i hear so much he said/she said during the course of any given conversation, that i simply take all that i hear with a very large grain of salt. lots of misconceptions out there about censure, suspension, complaint on license etc. i once heard an "experienced" administrator tell an rn, who got a letter from the nursing commission saying there was a complaint on her license, and it was going to be investigated, that she should just "look it up, don't you know that is all a matter of public record? : well, "dummy", that simply isn't true, turns out he had stuff on his license, and that led him to believe that all complaints go on one's license. not sure how he extrapolated that, but the information he gave the rn was completely erroneous, based on his own experience.

now, as an ethics assignment, i would assign him to reread the law as it pertains to rn, lpn and nursing home administrator so that he could figure out why that stuff was a matter of public record (hint: there had been an actual court hearing, duh.....". on his license then...teach him to give the correct information to the nurses he is supposedly in charge of/supervising (hint: he had his i/j stop placement issues from a previous facility on his license). on that note, that all goes with the other rumor that persists, that g and above in a survey goes on a dns license (not in this state, however, in a manner of speaking, it does, because when the dns goes to apply for anopther dns job, the new facility will ask "proven track record" and the dns applicant should be saying "well, i did get one g, or 2 i/j's and this is what i did about it........to make the facility safe, or the resident safe.." dns/don's please jump in if i haven't spoken all of this correctly, there are differences across the 50 states, all is dependent truly on the nursing commission in each state.

now, should you report? if you are a mandated reporter,you better, if not sure, review the state laws/scope of practice, nursing home regulations, jacho regs.

Public information on the states board of nursing website is how I found out Ruby.

NiceNuse LPN

OK, so what is your actual question? If the nursing board already knows, what is the issue?

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.

No need to do anything other than MYOB and not bother checking the licenses of coworkers or former coworkers unless you are in a position that requires you to complete license verification for your employer. Unless you were directly involved (perhaps say as a supervisor who reported diversion and the BON reported the license status change), there is no reason to go searching for "information" on others. period.

Ultimately it WILL catch up, and if she fails to disclose to new state then she will have to deal with the ramifications. Seems BoN's don't like very much to be deceived and take fraud VERY seriously (as they well should).

I agree, this is NOT a debate topic.

Barney Fife (wannabe),

This is a job for the state/facility "she" works for. Try to keep your gun in your holster.

Also, why are you (OP) assuming the "other state" wouldn't have the brains to figure out what her license in another state has on it? SHe can't just show up in a new state without accounting for where she originally got her license, if she started that new job previous to the actions on her license in the home state, then she had nothing to report, and why are you so wigged out about it? Do you think she is an unsafe nurse? Report that as a complaint or mind your own business. I am so annoyed by people who cannot answer their own ethical dilemmas. Ethics is very clear up. Patient safety takes precendent over friendships, enemy-ships and all of that other fodder for the barn.

Specializes in LTC, Memory loss, PDN.

Hypothetically speaking, I'd talk to my Friend and try to ensure they get help before I'd worry about any reporting.

Public information on the states board of nursing website is how I found out Ruby.

NiceNuse LPN

well then, it's public knowledge.

no need for any extra speculation.

any employer could check the bon website, just as easily.

why the interest?

leslie

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