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Should male nurses put the toilet seat down?

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Specializes in ER. Has 28 years experience.

Should male nurses put toilet seat down after use?

  1. 1. Should male nurses put toilet seat down after use?

    • 80
      Yes (I am a woman)
    • 9
      No (I am a woman)
    • 21
      Yes (I am a man)
    • 18
      No (I am a man)

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I will post this as a poll. I will be voting yes, they should. Not only do I think it's common courtesy and a gentlemanly thing to do, but I think I have solid infection control rationale.

Think of it it. If a woman has to put down the seat before doing her business, she will be contaminating her hands, and then she has to wipe herself 'down there'. Maybe she is menstruating and has to perform an invasive procedure with a tampon.

On the other hand, men only have to aim and fire, maybe briefly touching the external part of their organ of urination. There is no chance of the men folk performing an invasive procedure.

I bring this up because it has become an issue in our workplace. Someone keeps leaving the seat up!

Edited by Emergent

I vote "yes" based on your rationales (which are mine also).

Maybe someone needs to post a "reminder" sign in the restroom where the "offender" can't help but see it. Kind of like the "don't forget to wash your hands" reminder signs seen in many public places. I think it's pretty gross that these signs are even necessary in the first place.

Side note....I always flush public toilets with my foot! The thought of putting my hand where countless people have touched immediately after wiping/shaking or whatever gives me the shudders :yuck:

Edited by ICURN3020

Interesting topic. I guess, yes, because it is common courtesy. However, any "toilet touching" for me is done with my foot...so, it doesn't really matter either way...to me at least.

KeepItRealRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in CVICU. Has 28 years experience.

"If a woman has to put down the seat before doing her business, she will be contaminating her hands, and then she has to wipe herself 'down there'."

That could be solved by lowering the seat with the left hand and wiping with the right, or vice versa. No need to contaminate both hands on the toilet seat.

Most guys will never admit this but it is more true than not, but if you go in the bathroom after a guy and the seat is down, chances are it never went up. Knowing this I hope you find comfort now if you find the seat perpendicular to the commode.

KeepItRealRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in CVICU. Has 28 years experience.

However, any "toilet touching" for me is done with my foot...

^^ This too ^^

That could be solved by lowering the seat with the left hand and wiping with the right, or vice versa. No need to contaminate both hands on the toilet seat.

Personally, I prefer not to contaminate either of my hands.

Would you rather me just leave it down and try to aim well? :p

Most guys will never admit this but it is more true than not, but if you go in the bathroom after a guy and the seat is down, chances are it never went up. Knowing this I hope you find comfort now if you find the seat perpendicular to the commode.

And this is why if those handy seat covers aren't available I fashion one out of toilet paper.....works just as good if you make a couple layers. Wasteful I admit, but this is one area where I'm okay to waste in the name of keeping other people's body waste/germs from touching any part of my body.

Personally, I prefer not to contaminate either of my hands.

I agree, and, in order to prevent such "contamination" in addition to using my foot... I also make it a habit to wash my hands before and after. Can't be too safe!

Speaking of hygiene habits in the bathroom....one day upon picking my prechooler up from her class, the teacher said that she had never seen a child that young use their paper towel to shut the faucet off. I did a silent "YES"!!!!!!! She does actually listen to me and do what I teach her, even when I'm not around! :yeah:

And if you're ever in a public restroom and hear a woman in the next stall yell "WAIT!!!", it may just be me as I try to beat my little girl at unzipping while I'm hurriedly preparing a makeshift toilet seat cover:roflmao:

As we all know, when little ones gotta go, they gotta go NOW!

VivaLasViejas, ASN, RN

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych. Has 20 years experience.

Speaking of preschoolers' health habits, I love it when I see a little one cough or sneeze into his/her elbow. :yes:

BrandonLPN, LPN

Has 5 years experience.

On the other hand, women could:

-look before they sit down

-use a few squares of toiletpaper to put the seat down

I can put the seat down OK, and I wash my hands before I use the bathroom anyway. I'd rather be in charge of my own safety than depend on someone else. You know 99 out of a hundred guys will be great...but then there's that one...

PacoUSA, BSN, RN

Specializes in PCU / Telemetry. Has 9 years experience.

I was raised in a house of women, so putting the seat down when I'm done anywhere I go is just automatic now. I even take toilet paper and wipe splatter off the rim before I put the seat back down, flush and wash my hands. Don't you wish you worked with me now? :D

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We had an issue with this at one of my previous duty stations. One of the younger guys had...let's just say really bad aim. Pretty much detonated the bathroom every time he used it and it made all of us ladies extremely angry. I don't care if you're male or female; that's just gross. Even his male coworkers complained.

Nothing like **** on the toilet, **** on the floor, **** on the handle, **** on the door...

dudette10, MSN, RN

Specializes in Med/Surg, Academics. Has 10 years experience.

I was raised in a house of women, so putting the seat down when I'm done anywhere I go is just automatic now. I even take toilet paper and wipe splatter off the rim before I put the seat back down, flush and wash my hands. Don't you wish you worked with me now? :D

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I was raised in a house full of men, and I currently live in a house full of men. I don't know what the seat looks like down.

Being around boys all the time growing up, I tried to pee standing up. I was not successful, not one drop actually made it to the toilet.

Mr. Murse

Specializes in critical care. Has 7 years experience.

First of all, for all of you who use your nasty feet to flush and do other things, please start using a paper towel or a piece of toilet paper instead. Everyone who comes behind you and uses their bare hands are now just dragging whatever was on the bottom of your shoes out into public on their hands. Eventually all that contamination will come back to you, especially if you're sharing a work space with these people. All around nasty habit.

Ultimately the seat issue comes down to the fact that we (men) are expected to be "gentlemanly" and put the seat down after we go. But from a hygienic standpoint and disregarding toilet chivalry, that means we have to touch the seat to lift it, then do our business, then touch it again to lower it, then touch the handle to flush, then the faucet handle, etc., etc.

So really, it makes more sense to just do whatever requires the least seat touching, no? Especially for guys who have to handle their man-parts directly every time they go.

My proposition: if a lady goes in to the restroom and it's up, then grab a couple squares of TP or paper towel and lower it. If a man goes in and it's down, then grab a couple squares of TP or paper towel and raise it up. Problem of touching it directly is solved.

I hate to break it to all you ladies out there though, but you would be horrified to know how many men touch everything bare handed then never wash before leaving the bathroom. I take mental note of this all the time in public restrooms, and I can honestly say probably less than 50% of men actually wash with soap after using the restroom. A slightly higher percentage of men will run their hands under the water and bypass the soap and consider that a sufficient wash.

Edited by Mr. Murse