Should Male Nurse Work In L&D?

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hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life). Has 20 years experience. 4 Articles; 4,577 Posts

Interesting answers here. Polite discussion of topics with a potential to trigger is always appreciated.  I have been hospitalized or in the ER more times than I like. I have had both male and female nurses provide intimate care and all of them were professional. However women can say some really vicious things. Like commenting on how dirty a female's perineum was or size of a male's testicles or penis. So the opinion that female nurses are more empathic than males is not always the case, 

When I gave birth to the man cub it was  by emergency  C-section and the entire team was male. I was so worried about how the MC was doing I could've care less about who put in my foley.

If the op really wants to do L&D I suggest that he look into critically underserved areas or Bureau of Indian Affairs. 

If we are truly moving toward a world that recognizes all genders and affords equality both inside and outside the work place then we nurses who are recognized as the most trust worthy profession then must help carry the banner. 

Hppy

PS.  I know the person who said this was probably using this to prove a point but I find the opinion that many male nurses are gay demeaning and insulting to the many cis gender nurses I have known.

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Emergent, RN

Specializes in ER. Has 29 years experience. 2 Articles; 4,014 Posts

As a woman, I would definitely reject a male nurse for this specialty. I would also probably reject a male doctor. I did have a male doctor for one of my birth which was a home birth as all of them were. It was okay but I really don't like having male doctors look up my privates. Some people just don't like that.

Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 29 years experience. 3,559 Posts

In the military, all of my nurses during the births of both of my sons were male, except the CNMs. Aftercare were males, even the lactation specialists who told me that it was my fault that I had no milk production beyond the initial feed for both. Sadly, I didn't get a choice...

beachynurse, ASN, BSN

Specializes in School Nursing. Has 37 years experience. 273 Posts

On 7/1/2022 at 11:37 AM, toomuchbaloney said:

 The hospital who is respecting the emotional needs of the birthing patient is going to get sued for simply reassigning a male nurse?  The request of the patient is the only reason they need to show.  Is themale nurse then going to legally harass that woman (because sumthin sumthin his rights) or just contend that he's an injured party because his wants weren't elevated over the woman's?  This diminishing of women's rights and autonomy and value in our attitudes and actions is getting tedious. Yeah we are aware that our laws and their interpretation is a portion of that tedium.  IMV

Maybe you haven't noticed that as women are allowed into medical schools there are more and more women practicing OB/GYN. Perhaps you've missed that many women choose female midwives when they have limited choices among male OB/GYN monopolies in the field. Women having male doctors in [insert specialty] because there aren't other good alternatives is historical reality in this country. 

This is where the hospital needs to walk a tightrope. They need to make sure that they don't violate the nurse's rights, and also ensure that they meet the patients needs. Personally, I do not associate this with women's rights, and as the male nurse is a professional, I simply can't see him going to harass the patient. That actually sounds childish, and totally unprofessional to me. That kind of behavior should and would lead to discipline. 

Yes, women are matriculating into medical schools. I do not like the term allowed that sounds ingratiating, and demeaning to me. As women, we don't have to beg for anything. We can perform just as well as men in any career choice, so no doors should be closed. 

toomuchbaloney

toomuchbaloney

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice. Has 43 years experience. 8,973 Posts

27 minutes ago, beachynurse said:

This is where the hospital needs to walk a tightrope. They need to make sure that they don't violate the nurse's rights, and also ensure that they meet the patients needs. Personally, I do not associate this with women's rights, and as the male nurse is a professional, I simply can't see him going to harass the patient. That actually sounds childish, and totally unprofessional to me. That kind of behavior should and would lead to discipline. 

Yes, women are matriculating into medical schools. I do not like the term allowed that sounds ingratiating, and demeaning to me. As women, we don't have to beg for anything. We can perform just as well as men in any career choice, so no doors should be closed. 

Does the nurse have a right to a specific assignment, regardless of the patient's preference? That seems to be his contention. The nurse has been harmed in no way. 

 

beachynurse, ASN, BSN

Specializes in School Nursing. Has 37 years experience. 273 Posts

10 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Does the nurse have a right to a specific assignment, regardless of the patient's preference? That seems to be his contention. The nurse has been harmed in no way. 

 

Not necessarily, but if the requests continue and the unit continues to change his assignments and he is qualified to do the job, he may be able to claim harm to his professional reputation, ability to gain experience, possibly being ridiculed by co-workers. But, I didn't get the vibe that the male nurse was trying to cause any contention, he was just asking for our opinion and advice.

 

Mia Hoff, RN

Specializes in Med Surg, Geriatrics, Surgical, Peds, Ortho. Has 39 years experience. 5 Posts

On 6/29/2022 at 10:18 AM, EdieBrous said:

Don't a lot of these patients have male OB/GYNs?

I had the same thought...having given birth, I honestly wouldn't have minded a male L&D. As a Nurse, having only worked in NB Nursery & Peds, I can't really give imput per experience. I think, perhaps, as someone pointed out there may be some issue for some pts. Good Luck! NICU Nurses are Angels!! To that I can speak to with experience! My twin grandsons born premature. Wilmington hospital NC..NICU staff were amazing! Aiden died at 5 days after being flown to Duke with necrotizing bowel.. Logan died at 5 weeks, succumbing to NB, as well. It wasn't the best outcome but doesn't change how amazing NICU profs are!

greener22

greener22, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in PACU. Has 35 years experience. 36 Posts

Reading these comments I am floored by the comments I am a mother and I would not have minded at all if my nurse was a male. I had a male doctor who I had never met as my female doctor was not on call. Would the opinion be different if my female nurse was transgender? Probably. Or lesbian? How would I know if she were? I think he should try it. Would it be discrimination if they would not hire him??

ThePrincessBride, MSN, RN, NP

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU. Has 7 years experience. 1 Article; 2,574 Posts

On 7/2/2022 at 1:10 PM, hppygr8ful said:

Interesting answers here. Polite discussion of topics with a potential to trigger is always appreciated.  I have been hospitalized or in the ER more times than I like. I have had both male and female nurses provide intimate care and all of them were professional. However women can says some really vicious things. I like commenting on how dirty a female's perineum was or signs of a male's testicles or penis. So the opinion the female nurse are more empathic than males is not always the case, 

When I gave birth to the man cub it was  by emergency  C-section and the entire team was male. I was so worried about ow the MC was doing I could've care less about who put in my foley.

If the op really wants to do L&D I suggest that he look into critically underserved areas or Bureau of Indian Affairs. 

If we are truly moving toward a world that recognizes all ganders and affords equality both inside and outside the work places then we nurses who are recognized as the most trust worthy profession then we must help carry the banner. 

Hppy

PS I know the person who said this was probably using this to prove a point but I find the opinion that many male nurses are gay demeaning and insulting to the many cis gender nurse I have known.

No one actually said that many male nurses are gay. What I did say was that I find that the male nurses who typically do this best in predominantly female areas oftentimes are gay. Big difference. 

Delia37

Delia37, MSN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 15 years experience. 138 Posts

To the OP:

One of the best aspect of nursing is the flexibility we enjoy among specializations. Personally, I've done everything from organ donation coordinator to management (and everything in between).  If working in L&D is something you always wanted try; go for it!! However, be realistic and develop a thick skin for rejection. If in the end, it is not your cup of tea, do something else. Other than experience, you have nothing to lose. 

Good luck to you. 

DavidFR, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health. Has 36 years experience. 515 Posts

On 6/29/2022 at 4:18 PM, EdieBrous said:

Don't a lot of these patients have male OB/GYNs?

Exactly and in Europe we have male midwives.

Do you then start saying no lesbians in obs & gynae? Do we bow to the homophobes who don't want gay nurses, or the racists who don't want nurses of other races?

No females on urology? No males on breast surgery? 

Where do the non-binary and intersex fit into all this?

I've had females look after me during urology and proctology procedures. They were good professional nurses. I didn't care about their gender.

A professional is a professional. Our work is NOT sexual if we're doing it properly.

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DavidFR, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health. Has 36 years experience. 515 Posts

On 6/29/2022 at 5:36 PM, kdkout said:

Have you had a baby?  That informs this dialog.

 

No I've never had a baby.

I've also never had cancer but I'm a damn good oncology nurse.