Published Apr 10, 2013
You are reading page 2 of Sense of Entitlement or Right to "Sample"
springchick1, ADN, RN
If you read to the end of the article you will see that none of that really happened.
Tait, MSN, RN
I did read the entire thread and as of yesterday morning that edit was not part of the posting. Thank you for noting that.
And in all reality it doesn't change much about the core discussions that happen around entitlement, respect, and student/educator interactions.
I'm surprised how many people think the profs email was warranted. I don't disagree with the intent of the email but it definitely should have been addressed differently. I would consider the profs email very unprofessional in its wording, even if the student was disrespectful in their actions. Two wrongs don't make a right!
Mind you I've only been a student and never an instructor. Maybe I'd view things differently if I was on the other side of the spectrum.
Love it!Said student wouldn't accept three jobs and try them out all at once to see which is the right fit.
Said student wouldn't accept three jobs and try them out all at once to see which is the right fit.
Or maybe she would ...
I think, whether it happened or not, there are wrongs on both sides of the fence.
morte, LPN, LVN
I would have to side with the student. and the prof responded in a very inappropriate fashion.
SopranoKris, MSN, RN, NP
I'm still in school and I cannot believe the number of kids that come up with lame excuses every week for the professors. Yesterday's excuse takes the cake:
This kid walks up to the prof. Said kid is about 19 or 20 years old, mind you. Any way, the kid says "I'm sorry wasn't in class yesterday, I had an emergency". So the professor asks what his emergency was and the kid proceeds to say "well, the emergency was my dad didn't wake me up in time for class".
My jaw hit the floor!
All I wanted to do was say "Are you not an adult? Do you not know how to operate an ALARM CLOCK? Why is it your Dad's responsibility to make sure you are awake? This class starts at 1 PM in the AFTERNOON and you can't get your lazy self out of bed???"
So, I can see why this prof wrote what he did. Self-entitled kids today never take responsibility for their own actions. It's always somebody else's fault. Drives me absolutely nuts!!!
It seems the day this article was posted to this forum the author of the article (which was initially written some time ago) wrote an "Edit" at the end saying that this was not written by the professor. Nonetheless, most of us can see (or have seen) similar things happen. I think it's important to remember that 18-25 year olds are not known for their sense of responsibility and common sense. These things develop with time. Just because another calendar year has elapsed and a person's age is changed from 17 to 18, it doesn't mean that they're going to wake up that morning suddenly instilled with all the common sense, discipline and responsibility that they will need in life. Kids (young adults) do stupid things. We all have. It's annoying, yes. But If a kid does something dumb and a grown adult that is getting paid to do a job does something dumb I'm probably going to be less angry at the kid. I hold "seasoned" adults to a higher standard.
Some schools allow students to sample one such school is Brown University...maybe the student did under grad work at such a school and did not realize that NYU did not have the sample policy
And in all reality it doesn't change much about the core discussions that happen around entitlement' date=' respect, and student/educator interactions.[/quote']It really doesn't. I read the end, but the idea behind the discussion remains the same.
It really doesn't. I read the end, but the idea behind the discussion remains the same.
I'm with the professor on this one. The student was disrespectful and rude whether intentionally or not. Yes, the professor was harsh in his response. But if this were a grad student, how did they ever get so far without mastering the basic principle of respect and punctuality? It sounds like it was about time for some tough love. I know I would be upset if my relief nurse showed up an hour late for her shift and said she was sampling other units
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