Published Mar 17, 2010
NurseyPoo7
275 Posts
We had some nursing students on my unit a few weeks ago and I overheard their instructor and the students discussing an incident that happened with another clinical group at another hospital.
They said this group of nursing students had pts on a med surg floor.. and one nursing student was assigned to be the "charge nurse" of the group and was supposed to help with FSBS. Apparently, this student informed the other students of their patients' FSBS results. Well, long story short, at the end they couldnt find the documented FSBS in the computer and when the instructor asked the "charge" student about it ,he fessed up he had "made up" the numbers because he didnt know how to do a fingerstick and didnt want to ask someone
PostOpPrincess, BSN, RN
2,211 Posts
If it were me?
That would be an IMMEDIATE FAIL.
Ethics: #1.
You don't have integrity, you shouldn't get a license.
mesa1979, BSN, RN
120 Posts
This is live or death. Someone's FSBS could have been 500 or 30 and this person made them up!!???? Time for the boot for a semester.
murphyle, BSN, RN
279 Posts
*head on fire*
If this had been my student:
Step #1: Fail the kid on the spot. Confiscate student ID and any school-issued equipment, and escort out of the hospital. Consider calling Security if I really want to make an example.
Step #2: Go to SON and university administration and file academic misconduct charges. At the very least I'd seek dismissal from the SON, though a disciplinary expulsion from the university would be preferable.
It might sound draconian, but I don't want this kid in my clinical, nor in my hospital, nor in my profession. Ever. As Jo from PACU said, lack of integrity is an instant and permanent disqualification for the practice of nursing.
morte, LPN, LVN
7,015 Posts
hmmm my mouth can get a little...earthy....shall we say, so will just say "yeah, what they said"!
Da_Milk_of_Amnesia, MSN
514 Posts
That's scary. I'd do the same as those who said they would fail the kid on the spot. And JoPACURN, said " If you don't have integrity, you shouldn't have a license" Well said, and soo true !
sissiesmama, ASN, RN
1,898 Posts
WOW!! I can't believe the student did that. And, wasn't it the "charge student" or something? That IS scary. I have actually seen a few nurses at one of our local hospitals get caught doing this.
My thing is, don't u have any idea what kind of reaction a pt may have if their BS is 20 or 400? Another, is just how long does it take to ask and find out something, if u don't know.
The ones I was working with made up fake BS readings on 10 patients. It seemed to me that it would take longer to pull fake numbers out of the air than actually stick the fingers. That was the excuse she used when she had to appear in front of the BON, that she didn't have enough time to stick the fingers.
Please!
Anne, RNC
CaLLaCoDe, BSN, RN
1,174 Posts
You're fired!
GOMER42
310 Posts
Is it not the instructor's job to oversee that the students are doing things right?
At least she caught it- eventually- but...
double fail!
oramar
5,758 Posts
That is getting harder to do because more and more places are getting technology that plugs straight into the computer and transmit the numbers. We grumbled when they got the things because we couldn't do sticks on ourself any more, but I can see now what the value would be.
HealthShepherd
183 Posts
Wow. So did you hear what DID happen to the student, Nurseypoo7?
j621d
223 Posts
Hopefully the instructor or the school have policies in place, including issues on integrity. I agree the student should be out, but you can't do it unless students know up front the disciplinary actions that could be imposed. The student could bring a law suit, and....well, it could get ugly.
Bottom line, the school should have something in place that would make this an automatic failure!