PNA vs institutionalizing practical nursing program
By Katherine Evangelista
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 20:14:00 06/18/2008
MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippine Nurses Association (PNA) on Wednesday declared its opposition to the proposal of the Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) to "ladderize" the nursing curriculum to institutionalize the practical nursing course Wednesday.
At the same time, the PNA called on schools offering practical nursing to be "honest" and not "mislead" prospective students into believing there is a high demand for practical nurses abroad when there is none.
I realized that there is a problem with the Commission on Higher Education (ChEd). First, they cannot close down low performing nursing schools and now they plan to ladderize the LPN program. Are they stupid? The LPN program should be abolish. They are misleading LPNs in their career.
It doesn't matter if you post the LPN schools here or not. The schools will just pop up somewhere else with a different name. We have to educate the nurses about the realities of things and hope that the companies collapse from lack of financial support.
That is one of the problems here in the Philippines, these illigitimate businesses pop up like mushrooms and there is not a strong police presence to enforce the laws like in the USA so they get away with taking advantage of people for a while before someone in the government decides to pay attention and shut them down with force.
We are talking about a place where Passport fixers are able to operate right in front of the Bureau of Immigration.
No, we just have to educate the population and hope that our words spread faster than the ones who want to take advantage of others.
exactly, and even online they are already offering this course, what will learn of this type of education, just helping this people to have more money in their bank account. say no to this...:nono:
when i graduated BSN and became RN, i tried to look for a hospital job immediately... but as i was waiting for calls, i applied for a part-time teaching job to at least have a little source of income while waiting for a fulltime hospital job...
and you've guessed it right.. i worked part-time at a Caregiver-LPN school..at that time i was a little ignorant on what the status and future of these students both here and abroad.. but when i realized it, i discussed this on a subtle way with the school director (not the owner).. as far as i can recall, there was not much of a coversation that had happened.. at this point though, i was only teaching caregivers..
then after 6 months i was offered a regular load to teach LPN student. during orientation, i asked them what prompted them to take LPN instead of the BSN program.. (of course, you have an idea on what responses i got).. anyhow, i few months of getting to know these student, i brought to their attention their status and their probably future with their degree, they were saddened but somehow still eager to finish the course and hope for the best...
this was probably brought to the attention of the owner...guess what,, i wasnt given any more teaching loads! LOL
although, some of the faculty members were really good.. some were not even RNs, meaning no hospital experience and not much to impart about the reality of practice... they just spend more than half of their time sharing sh!t load of crappy nursing jokes and stories.. hehehe..
Thank you for sharing your story as an instructor. I can see you felt bad about your students situation and you did the right thing and it cost you the paid position.
I do agree somehow about the LPN program to be implemented here in Philippines. It is about time to meticulously distinguish the job description of Registered Nurses. I believe every nurse around here is aware how discriminating the RICH/WEALTHY FILIPINO clients can be.(Maybe not all of 'em but majority are). These elite people usually treat nurses as housemaids, demanding and requesting to do something for them which is beyond the job of a nurse. Like requesting for grooming equipments to be delivered to them right away. Worse, they wouldn't even ask for it in a nice way. If they didn't get what they demanded for (which is usually not related to their health or well-being) they would humiliate you its as if these rich people are the one you owe your life for.
Nurses should remember that, our parents didn't spend huge amount of money to send us to the best nursing schools just to get humiliated or insulted. We should not let this spoiled brat, uncivilized rich people to treat us like we are their possessions, that they wouldn't care for your feelings. Even if a nurse is so competent, they wouldn't even recognize it.
I am not sure if these rude rich people didn't have the chance to learn what moral values means. Or maybe they are not just aware of the nurse's job description.
What the nurses do is to ASSESS, INTERVENE, and TEACH. Not to be their glorified assistants. But what's happening now is, the job and task of the LPN's and Nurse Aids that is supposed to be theirs, is being delegated to the RNs as well.
when i graduated BSN and became RN, i tried to look for a hospital job immediately... but as i was waiting for calls, i applied for a part-time teaching job to at least have a little source of income while waiting for a fulltime hospital job...
and you've guessed it right.. i worked part-time at a Caregiver-LPN school..at that time i was a little ignorant on what the status and future of these students both here and abroad.. but when i realized it, i discussed this on a subtle way with the school director (not the owner).. as far as i can recall, there was not much of a coversation that had happened.. at this point though, i was only teaching caregivers..
then after 6 months i was offered a regular load to teach LPN student. during orientation, i asked them what prompted them to take LPN instead of the BSN program.. (of course, you have an idea on what responses i got).. anyhow, i few months of getting to know these student, i brought to their attention their status and their probably future with their degree, they were saddened but somehow still eager to finish the course and hope for the best...
this was probably brought to the attention of the owner...guess what,, i wasnt given any more teaching loads! LOL
although, some of the faculty members were really good.. some were not even RNs, meaning no hospital experience and not much to impart about the reality of practice... they just spend more than half of their time sharing sh!t load of crappy nursing jokes and stories.. hehehe..
i think you are the only RN who knows the right thing the rest are crabs who just want the money of our poor people who tried their best to send their children to a nursing school without knowing that they are just giving their hard earn money to the pocket of this nursing school owner, they know the real situation but they dont want to tell this to the student, i just hope this RN instructor in LPN school will open their mind and tell the truth to their student. this is like a "legal robbery" and i hope our government will act on this matter. And I don't understand this people in TESDA why they keep giving a lic to this school offering an LPN and RN (not BSN) to operate, when they know that there is no job for this courses, some say when they finish this course they can apply as caregiver,..then why not offer a caregiver courses only instead of LPN an RN (ADN as what they call it) if after graduation they will just work as a caregiver.
its sad, i dont think anyone else can do anything about it as of now...it'll fall into deaf ears..
however, the PNA and PRC has so much power to do something about this, and i believe they are addressing the problem now.
i have known people who have quit their hospital jobs to teach fulltime because, as they have admitted - higher pay. i have been asked the same thing. i passed my resume to teach BSN part-time at the hospital i work on, but right now i havent been asked to report... hopefully when i finish my MA degree they would be willing to accept my services..
and while they're at it, the PNA, PRC and CHED (CHED most especially) should work on upgrading the nursing curriculum in our country...it sucks to know that my degree is only equivalent to a college certificate here in Ontario
and while they're at it, the PNA, PRC and CHED (CHED most especially) should work on upgrading the nursing curriculum in our country...it sucks to know that my degree is only equivalent to a college certificate here in Ontario
you must be referring to the old curriculum, the one that you're under..
the new curriculum looks good.
the implementation will remain questionable, or rather we still have to wait how it will affect the current nursing students
I don't want to be too negative here, but when it comes to RN problem, the PNA can't even solve it, what more this LPN?
The main problem here, is that what sec. Brion mentioned before. That LPN is in demand abroad. Wherein, our country don't even recognise it! That message made some people more greedy without even realizing that the message is wrong. It already mislead other people and they're continue to do it. Well, I bet some of them don't even have an idea what will happen to LPN after they finish the course....
PNA vs institutionalizing practical nursing program
By Katherine Evangelista
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 20:14:00 06/18/2008
MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippine Nurses Association (PNA) on Wednesday declared its opposition to the proposal of the Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) to "ladderize" the nursing curriculum to institutionalize the practical nursing course Wednesday.
At the same time, the PNA called on schools offering practical nursing to be "honest" and not "mislead" prospective students into believing there is a high demand for practical nurses abroad when there is none.
I realized that there is a problem with the Commission on Higher Education (ChEd). First, they cannot close down low performing nursing schools and now they plan to ladderize the LPN program. Are they stupid? The LPN program should be abolish. They are misleading LPNs in their career.
Do you even know what you're talking about? No to LPNs? Will you be your Nurse Manager's assistant when the LPN is gone? Or are you just writing this for article's sake. Yes, its true there is a great demand for LPNs/LVNs. Do not mislead your readers.
:yeah:for the very first time i will have to salute the PNA for their stand against LPN.. there are even no jobs for RN, why would CHED would add another bunch of unemployed nurses!!! :argue:
:dncgcpd:
Because RNs require are higher salary and do no work the LVN job. Silly question.
:nono:
LOL
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i didnt know there are already PN programs in Philippines... they will just make money from the students.. glad to hear PNA is against it..