Rude remarks by doc with his own kids

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:uhoh21:last night when i got to work, i was pulled to another floor which did not bother me. as i went walking up the nurse's station, which sits right in front of the elevators, i seen one of our more popular docs finishing rounds with his 2 kids in tow.

doc ben says" ok kids tell them by, kids say by every one ( 7y boy and 4y girl). doc says push the button, the elevators open and he says very loudly ,ok guys let go see the lady with the biggest butt, what floor should we go to? kids reply, we don't know dad. he laughs :lol2::lol2:and says how about the first floor by the cafeteria , that usually where they hang out!!'

now this is not the first remark this doc has made, few weeks back, he had same son and son's friend with them, makes the remark, come on boys, let she go show you a big one!

the nurses on the floor just laughed and said that's doc ben for you.

now what kind of example is he setting for his kids? :madface:not to mention, what if family members or worse yet, one of his pt's heard him.

i did tell my nurse manager, who replied, well there's really nothing we can do about that.

i used to have respect for this man, no longer, how very unprofessional, rude and down right mean.:down::down:

:angryfire:angryfirestill burns me a good one when writing this!!

" The practice of rounding with children is not uncommon. Sometimes this is the only time they do get to see their kids and bond with them. " O PLEASE!---so take a friggin' day OFF if you want to see your kids..Would ya drag them to work if you were a mechanic? A butcher?

Day off? Thanks for making me smile. :)

right you are-I don't find his sense of humor very funny-but I like yours...

Someone else said

" The practice of rounding with children is not uncommon. Sometimes this is the only time they do get to see their kids and bond with them. " O PLEASE!---so take a friggin' day OFF if you want to see your kids..Would ya drag them to work if you were a mechanic? A butcher?

I really feel like I must live in an alternate universe. Lots of people bring their kids to work - including butchers and mechanics and teachers and pilots and ranchers and hairdressers and librarians and computer geeks and .. .I could go on and on. What about "Take Your Kids To Work Day"?

My husband has always taken our kids in the logging truck with him. Our youngest loves driving with Daddy. How else to bond with kids if you only limit yourself to seeing them at home? How else do your kids know what you do for a living?

The original point was the doc's rudeness in front of his kids. That I think is appalling.

But rounding with your kids? I think that is great!

Our docs also make house calls and sometimes take their kids along. :w00t:

steph

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

Steph has a point. As long as the kids are well behaved, why not? They can wait in the family room, or even tag along as long as it's okay with the patient. Depends on the kid and the patients. But why shouldn't a child see what Daddy or Mommy do?

Day off? Thanks for making me smile. :)

ktwlpn said

O PLEASE!---so take a friggin' day OFF if you want to see your kids..Would ya drag them to work if you were a mechanic? A butcher?

I work in a teaching hospital...

In residency sometimes there is no such thing as a day off. And the 80 hour work week rule gets bent more than it gets followed depending on the hospital.

Residents sometimes get "locked in" due to their outrageous student loans and the way residency programs are run...until they are out of residency they work up to 80 or more hours a week for $45-60K a year. I can make that working part time as an RN. Residents can't just "quit" because they don't like the hours, or can't get a schedule they like.

If a father brings his kids who are well behaved along to finish a quick round and write a few orders while on his way to the park more power to him, so long as he doesn't expect the nurses to watch the kids. It's not like he's having a slumber party in the oncall room. IMO this doesn't make him a bad parent...this makes him a father who is struggling to balance the roles of a doctor and parent. BUT at least he's trying to make time for his children.

Also, admit it we all know the nurse who lied and called in sick because she didn't have child care...residents don't have that luxury.

now second half

My father was a mechanic in the Army...I remember hanging out with him in the motor pool with him. I also remember helping my mother butcher a goose at a friend's farm one time, and I always helped both my parents gut and fillet fish that we caught. These are memories of my parents doing things with me.

I also was very proud of the fact that I knew how to change my own oil, spark plugs, tires, battery, and air filter.

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

Yes, I think physicians should be given a break now and then. They really do work long hours. On the other hand, this one sounds like he could be featured on 'Nanny 911' :rolleyes:

Specializes in Lie detection.
how do you even know that the person likes kids? there are many possible hazards to the child by bringing them into a healthcare setting with adults that are not only unknown to them, but are unknow to you, .

Agree. And even if the patient DOES like kids, they are ill and just may not be in the mood to deal with someone's little darlings at the moment. Being that it is their Dr's kids, they may feel pressure to be nice. It's not fair to put someone in that position.

Even if the child gave a patient a cold, this is not particular serious,

I beg to differ. We've all had patients that a cold could mean a death sentence to. You also know that a child may not be symptomatic yet still be contagious. It's just not worth it, either for the patient OR the child.

Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.
I really feel like I must live in an alternate universe. Lots of people bring their kids to work - including butchers and mechanics and teachers and pilots and ranchers and hairdressers and librarians and computer geeks and .. .I could go on and on. What about "Take Your Kids To Work Day"?

My husband has always taken our kids in the logging truck with him. Our youngest loves driving with Daddy. How else to bond with kids if you only limit yourself to seeing them at home? How else do your kids know what you do for a living?

The original point was the doc's rudeness in front of his kids. That I think is appalling.

But rounding with your kids? I think that is great!

Our docs also make house calls and sometimes take their kids along. :w00t:

steph

and I think it's dangerous....If your kid is old enough and mature enough to sit and read or play a hand held game in a waiting area-fine.But actually go from room to room or be in a work are? Stupid.There is a reason why OSHA limits the working age to 16-older for some jobs.There is a reason my hairdresser posts signs all over the shop barring kids from playing around the chairs. Computers? I can see a sippy cup incident.We are not allowed to have a bottle of water near a computer.Meat slicers? Circular saw? Let's just let them play in traffic... There are reasons why staff are not premitted to bring their kids to work at our facilty-except on "bring your kid to work day" of course.Even then they are not permitted in patient care areas due to privavcy and infection control issues.And TiredMD-I know many,many docs that take time off..I can't feel sorry for someone that sacrifices their children over their job and then demands special treatment ..Sometimes you have to make a hard choice to do what you think is best for your children-that may mean making do with less...

This man isn't setting a good example as a father let alone as a doctor. He was probably trying to make the children laugh, but his joke wasn't just unprofessional it was unkind.

If I were in the hospital and a doctor showed up to my room with his children I would ask him to come back without them. I wouldn't be comfortable going over my medical issues with them in the room. And an exam?! No way.

When I am a nurse I wouldn't watch a child while on duty if asked. My full attention should be on the patients not on an itty bitty. Their child isn't my job or concern. I adore children, but under these circumstances the answer would be no. An older child who can sit and play games wouldn't be an issue as long as they weren't left under my watch.

.There is a reason why OSHA limits the working age to 16-older for some jobs....

My husband and I completely disagree with this. Of course, being raised on a farm and working with your parents, this kind of rule seems silly.

Being in the sheep barn with your mom as she acts as midwife is a memorable experience. Helping with harvest teaches kids so much about how our food gets to the table. Getting up early with dad to milk the cows is a great bonding time. I'm not a big believer in planning for "quality" time . . I'm a big believer in spending lots of time with your kids and quality just happens.

Also, I think kids "nowadays" miss out, being swaddled in cotton.

I've never said that a doc should just unceremoniously stomp into a patient's room with kid in tow. Our docs don't do that.

steph

I've never said that a doc should just unceremoniously stomp into a patient's room with kid in tow. Our docs don't do that.

steph

i must have misread your other post, where you stated that your docs also make house calls, sometimes bringing their kids along- followed by a big, fat :w00t:.

but, to share in milking a cow and watching a sheep give birth, are indeed, memories in the making. :up:

leslie

i must have misread your other post, where you stated that your docs also make house calls, sometimes bringing their kids along- followed by a big, fat :w00t:.

but, to share in milking a cow and watching a sheep give birth, are indeed, memories in the making. :up:

leslie

I meant in the hospital room . .. they do take their kids on some house calls. Of course docs are circumspect regarding privacy.

No one is saying docs bring their kids into each and every room during rounds.

steph

Specializes in Staff nurse.

Patients have the option of not having a student nurse, and they choose accordingly. However, wouldn't it be intimidating for a doctor to have his/her child/ren enter the room and the pt. being asked after the fact? How is a pt. going to say no? No matter how good a doc you are, your attention will be divided.

As for kids at the nurses' station or the family room, what if there is a code or a security situation where it isn't safe for unattended kids to be around? Why put the nursing staff in that position of choosing pt. safety or watching Dr. X's charges?

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