Roe v. Wade abandoned by Supreme Court

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I guess even if some people end up going to jail over Trump's shenanigans the conservatives have won their long-sought prize and they will consider it worth the cost. 

9 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Clarence Thomas, and his public comments, very concerning. Like all Americans, he has a right to his personal opinions. He does not have the right to impose those opinions on the rest of us through his profession as a US Supreme Court Judge. I would say this of any Judge, regardless of political affiliation, that made public comments that very much affect the legal fabric of the US.

I'm very disappointed about the Roe vs Wade decision. I may be a moderate conservative, but I believe that every woman has the right to self determine her body and reproductive health. I feel that any woman who has had to go through the emotional and intellectual decision making process to arrive at abortion deserves a safe, and cost effective, procedure. This decision would be so difficult to arrive at, I can't even imagine the mental state, regardless of how the pregnancy came to be. I'm going to stop at this, as I'm going off on a wild tangent...

Do you think same sex marriage will become his next target ?

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1 hour ago, CodyNguyen said:

Do you think same sex marriage will become his next target ?

Some states are already taking aim at birth control, which could lead to the overturning of Griswald, that allowed married couples the liberty to use birth control.

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15 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

Some states are already taking aim at birth control, which could lead to the overturning of Griswald, that allowed married couples the liberty to use birth control.

That is frightening. If other judges side with Clarence Thomas, it is only a matter of time before people like cannot get married ?.

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2 hours ago, nursej22 said:

Some states are already taking aim at birth control, which could lead to the overturning of Griswald, that allowed married couples the liberty to use birth control.

Seems unbelievable.   You have a source to back that up?

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7 hours ago, CodyNguyen said:

Do you think same sex marriage will become his next target ?

I hope not. People should be able to marry who they love, not who society says they should. As far as the Bible, I'm canning that argument before it starts: if God has a problem with a person's sexuality, he'll deal with it at their judgment. I'm not God (or whatever higher power a person ascribes to), so I won't judge!

Clarence Thomas needs to watch where he starts 'trailblazing', as historically, not long ago, he couldn't have married his wife. I doubt that's the slippery slope that he wants to die on

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52 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

I hope not. People should be able to marry who they love, not who society says they should. As far as the Bible, I'm canning that argument before it starts: if God has a problem with a person's sexuality, he'll deal with it at their judgment. I'm not God (or whatever higher power a person ascribes to), so I won't judge!

Clarence Thomas needs to watch where he starts 'trailblazing', as historically, not long ago, he couldn't have married his wife. I doubt that's the slippery slope that he wants to die on

But if they did return that right and freedom to the states I'm quite certain that Justice Thomas feels immune and insulated from that...

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5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Seems unbelievable.   You have a source to back that up?

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/iuds-plan-b-likely-illegal-in-missouri-post-roe-37654014

https://www.bolnews.com/trending/2022/05/after-abortion-ban-idaho-republican-rep-plans-to-ban-iuds-and-plan-b-contraceptive-pills/

https://www.truthorfiction.com/louisiana-iud-bill/

These are just the first 3 hits from my search engine. Do you even try to look for info, or is this some sort of game for you? 

 

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5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Seems unbelievable.   You have a source to back that up?

There are many who believe that birth control pills can be "abortive" because while their primary action is to prevent ovulation, they can also prevent implantation if fertilization does occur. The hardcore "life begins at conception" people will go after hormonal birth control next. 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

But if they did return that right and freedom to the states I'm quite certain that Justice Thomas feels immune and insulated from that...

I agree that he may feel that way, but it doesn't guarantee that it actually will be that way. Every day, I wake up and wonder 'what's it going to be next?' Strange times that we live in

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3 hours ago, nursej22 said:

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/iuds-plan-b-likely-illegal-in-missouri-post-roe-37654014

https://www.bolnews.com/trending/2022/05/after-abortion-ban-idaho-republican-rep-plans-to-ban-iuds-and-plan-b-contraceptive-pills/

https://www.truthorfiction.com/louisiana-iud-bill/

These are just the first 3 hits from my search engine. Do you even try to look for info, or is this some sort of game for you? 

 

Your claim was that "some states are already taking aim at birth control".

Your sources above include two opinion pieces, at least one of them is a very progressive outlet, that are surmising that one specific method of birth control, IUD's, will now be illegal. 

Your other source, a Pakistani news site with a troubled history, claims one Idaho legislator "plans to ban plan B and IUD's".  However, when you read the article, this is what you find:

"Crane, who flaunted that he’s passed or chipped away at 17 enemies of early termination bills in the state governing body, told Idaho Reports that he “likely would” hear regulation prohibiting a next day contraceptive, and potentially IUDs also. “I’m unsure where I would be on that issue,” he said of the last strategy"

Based on your claim, I was expecting to find something that indicate that there is any kind of significant support or movement somewhere to ban contraceptives.  I was unable to find anything, so I asked you.

I guess you don't really have anything either.  Are you uninformed, or just easily influenced by liberal fear-mongering?

As soon as women start getting prosecuted for using IUD's, you let me know, and I'll stand corrected.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Your claim was that "some states are already taking aim at birth control".

Your sources above include two opinion pieces, at least one of them is a very progressive outlet, that are surmising that one specific method of birth control, IUD's, will now be illegal. 

Your other source, a Pakistani news site with a troubled history, claims one Idaho legislator "plans to ban plan B and IUD's".  However, when you read the article, this is what you find:

"Crane, who flaunted that he’s passed or chipped away at 17 enemies of early termination bills in the state governing body, told Idaho Reports that he “likely would” hear regulation prohibiting a next day contraceptive, and potentially IUDs also. “I’m unsure where I would be on that issue,” he said of the last strategy"

Based on your claim, I was expecting to find something that indicate that there is any kind of significant support or movement somewhere to ban contraceptives.  I was unable to find anything, so I asked you.

I guess you don't really have anything either.  Are you uninformed, or just easily influenced by liberal fear-mongering?

As soon as women start getting prosecuted for using IUD's, you let me know, and I'll stand corrected.

 

 

Most of us aren't pretending that the right wing extremists don't already conflate IUDs with abortion. 

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

 

Your sources above include two opinion pieces, at least one of them is a very progressive outlet, that are surmising that one specific method of birth control, IUD's, will now be illegal. 

Your other source, a Pakistani news site with a troubled history, claims one Idaho legislator "plans to ban plan B and IUD's".  However, when you read the article, this is what you find:

 

Based on your claim, I was expecting to find something that indicate that there is any kind of significant support or movement somewhere to ban contraceptives.  I was unable to find anything, so I asked you.

I guess you don't really have anything either.  Are you uninformed, or just easily influenced by liberal fear-mongering?

As soon as women start getting prosecuted for using IUD's, you let me know, and I'll stand corrected.

 

 

Okay, as soon as I see an article in the NYPost or Daily Caller about laws prohibiting contraception, I’ll let you know. 

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