Roe v. Wade abandoned by Supreme Court

toomuchbaloney · Aug 20, 2022

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-health/3606855-suffering-from-burnout-doctors-are-working-drunk-or-high-on-the-job-report/

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Now the crisis is becoming evident within the country’s health care industry, with 40 percent of health care workers indicating they felt anxiety or dread about going to work. Nearly half, 49 percent, also said they are either at their breaking point or looking for a new job due to the stress and trauma they endured while working in healthcare.

That’s from a report produced by All Points North (APN), a mental health company, that interviewed 1,000 U.S. health care workers aged 22 and older. Noah Nordheimer, founder and CEO of APN, said the results indicated an industry, “that’s been slow to respond to the growing demand for behavioral health services and often treating mental health as secondary to physical health.”

Even more alarming, APN found that over the last three months, 1 in 7 physicians admitted to consuming alcohol or controlled substances at work — and more than 1 in 5 said they consumed alcohol or controlled substances multiple times per day.

However, 1 in 5 health care workers said they have checked into rehab or a detox facility in the last three months.

APN noted that there are serious barriers to seeking help, with nearly 1 in 3 health care workers indicating they are too overworked and don’t have time, 23 percent are concerned colleagues and family will judge them, and another 23 percent said they’re afraid of getting their medical license revoked.

Cause and effect...

Ooops... wrong thread.

HiddenAngels · Aug 20, 2022

3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-health/3606855-suffering-from-burnout-doctors-are-working-drunk-or-high-on-the-job-report/

Cause and effect...

Ooops... wrong thread.

Wrong thread or not, wow I'm shocked regarding at work drug and alcohol use by HCPs. It's something I never really thought about.

nursej22, MSN, RN · Sep 20, 2022

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/20/politics/abortion-bans-murder-charges-invs/index.html

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A businessman turned state representative from rural Oil City, Louisiana, and a Baptist pastor banded together earlier this year on a radical mission.

They were adamant that a woman who receives an abortion should receive the same criminal consequences as one who drowns her baby.

Under a bill they promoted, pregnant people could face murder charges even if they were raped or doctors determined the procedure was needed to save their own life. Doctors who attempted to help patients conceive through in-vitro fertilization, a fertility treatment used by millions of Americans, could also be locked up for destroying embryos, and certain contraception such as Plan B would be banned.

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Only four people spoke against the bill during the committee meeting— all women. They pleaded with the lawmakers to grasp the gravity of the proposed restrictions, which went farther than any state abortion law currently on the books, and warned of unintended consequences.

But in the end, only one man and one woman, an Independent and a Democrat, voted against it in committee. Seven men on the committee, all Republicans, voted in favor of the bill, moving it one step closer to becoming law.

HiddenAngels · Sep 20, 2022

16 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/20/politics/abortion-bans-murder-charges-invs/index.html

Sounds just like something out of The Handmaids Tale! These men have lost their minds. How can your life be so boring that you obsess and come up with plans to just restrict and kill women. Because that is really what this boils down to. Control!

Someone please give these people a hug

macawake, MSN · Sep 20, 2022

1 hour ago, HiddenAngels said:

Sounds just like something out of The Handmaids Tale! These men have lost their minds. How can your life be so boring that you obsess and come up with plans to just restrict and kill women. Because that is really what this boils down to. Control!

I respect individuals who oppose abortion and choose not to have one. That’s in my opinion each individual’s right. I have zero respect for people who think they have the right to force their will on others. One of the most, if not the most personal decision in a women’s life, whether and when to become a mother and accept all the medical risks that a pregnancy and delivery involves isn’t for others to decide.

I think you’re correct. It’s about control. Nothing else. Those who oppose a woman’s right to choose can try to argue that they want to protect the lives of the unborn. I don’t believe them. Why? First of all, the available global data shows us that abortions can’t really be banned. The only thing you can ban are safe abortions. Second reason.. how many of these individuals who want to restrict or completely take away access to safe abortions, also promote social programs that will increase security and quality of life for the mothers and children once they are born? How many work hard to make sure that all people have easy access to safe and affordable contraceptives? Do they encourage sex ED in school to help children/adolescents have a healthy and safe sex life when the time comes? I might be wrong, but it seems to me that most of the people actively involved in trying to restrict women’s access to healthcare aren’t interested in doing much beyond imposing their will on women.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/langlo/PIIS2214-109X(20)30315-6.pdf

https://www.cfr.org/article/abortion-law-global-comparisons

(The last one is from a think tank, but I find it interesting and a worthwhile read).

macawake, MSN · Sep 20, 2022

Does anyone else see the pattern I see? Look at life expectancy, maternal and infant mortality across the various states in the U.S. How are most of the states who already have or are attempting/planning to restrict access to safe abortions faring in these key health areas compared to the rest of the states?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_life_expectancy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_mortality_in_the_United_States#Comparisons_by_state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_infant_mortality_rates

If the current restrictive policies are kept in place in those states who acted to restrict access to abortion when Roe was overturned, I think we’ll see these already big differences increasing over the coming years.

Restricting women’s access to safe healthcare, and yes abortions are a part of that, will increase women’s morbidity and mortality.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 20, 2022

15 minutes ago, macawake said:

Does anyone else see the pattern I see? Look at life expectancy, maternal and infant mortality across the various states in the U.S. How are most of the states who already have or are attempting/planning to restrict access to safe abortions faring in these key health areas compared to the rest of the states?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_life_expectancy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_mortality_in_the_United_States#Comparisons_by_state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_infant_mortality_rates

If the current restrictive policies are kept in place in those states who acted to restrict access to abortion when Roe was overturned, I think we’ll see these already big differences increasing over the coming years.

Restricting women’s access to safe healthcare, and yes abortions are a part of that, will increase women’s morbidity and mortality.

It's clear as a bell...people who are immersed in and consumed by noise are unable to see it. I hope that it has been obvious from my comments in these threads that I can see exactly what is going on.

It's very dangerous.

subee, MSN, CRNA · Sep 20, 2022

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It's clear as a bell...people who are immersed in and consumed by noise are unable to see it. I hope that it has been obvious from my comments in these threads that I can see exactly what is going on.

It's very dangerous.

Yes, it is dangerous for so many women and sociey in general. I think these zealots would meet for a picnic if they could stone a woman accused of adultery for entertainment.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 20, 2022

34 minutes ago, subee said:

Yes, it is dangerous for so many women and sociey in general. I think these zealots would meet for a picnic if they could stone a woman accused of adultery for entertainment.

That's a crazy picture that you paint and I want to recoil from it. But then I'm reminded what truly horrendous actions groups of people, gripped by an emotional belief are capable of committing or excusing.

It's not like we didn't burn women alive at one time in this country.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 4, 2022

The Next Anti-Abortion Tactic: Attacking the Spread of Information https://nyti.ms/3gUDkmi

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Now that abortion has been banned in more than a dozen states, abortion opponents want to stoke confusion about the legality of not just having an abortion, but even of discussing the procedure. The ultimate goal seems to be ensuring that women are unclear about their options to obtain an abortion or contraception, in their home state or elsewhere.

Signs of this trend can be found around the country. In Nebraska, law enforcement obtained a warrant to search a teenager’s private facebook messages, in which she told her mother of her urgent desire to end her pregnancy. The mother is now being prosecuted on charges of helping her daughter abort the pregnancy by giving advice about abortion pills.

Proposed legislation in South Carolina would have made it unlawful to provide information about abortions. In September, the University of Idaho issued guidance that it might be illegal for employees to “promote” birth control or abortion. In Texas, two abortion funds (groups that help people pay and travel for abortions) this year received deposition demand letters from people tied to anti-abortion lawmakers for information on anyone who has “aided and abetted” the procedure.

And in Oklahoma, some library workers were warned about helping patrons find information about abortion, or even uttering the word. In an email, the employees were told they could face a $10,000 fine, jail time or even lose their jobs if they didn’t comply. (The library system later updated its guidance.)

Attacks on speech about abortion may seem a sudden reversal for an anti-abortion movement that long claimed to be a champion of the First Amendment. But in fact, decades before Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the decision that overturned Roe, social conservatives set their sights on the First Amendment as a tool to chip away at reproductive rights. And it worked.

Abortion foes have long argued that the right to refuse to prescribe birth control or to perform abortions is embedded in the First Amendment and its free exercise clause, which protects individuals’ right to practice religion and dates back to speeches given by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson.

Which rights are safe when confronted by zealots?

heron, ASN, RN · Dec 4, 2022

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The Next Anti-Abortion Tactic: Attacking the Spread of Information https://nyti.ms/3gUDkmi

Which rights are safe when confronted by zealots?

For people who complain endlessly about cancel culture, right-wingers sure do a lot of cancelling of their own.

ETA: Ya gotta wonder where the free speech warriors are in all this.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 4, 2022

2 hours ago, heron said:

For people who complain endlessly about cancel culture, right-wingers sure do a lot of cancelling of their own.

ETA: Ya gotta wonder where the free speech warriors are in all this.

Most of the loud complaints about freedom of speech from the right wing can be cataloged as gas lighting or projecting. The true free speech warriors aren't really activists for the right wing. This is historically and currently true about right wing extremism.