Rich nurses?

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you guys are mostly from the USA?

I just glanced over a thread and it seems you guys are ridculously overpaid?

In Australia.. nursing is by far not a well paid job. Its maybe just average. My step dad who was a traffic controller - held a sign that said "slow" and "stop" on the flipside got paid $10 an hour more than me.. i kid you not.

Yes, I think US. nurses do alot more than nurses overseas.

Really?

Do tell :)

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Specializes in Hospice, Med Surg, Long Term.

How do you figure? We do some of the nastiest jobs there are! We do things that make most people want to barf! How many ordinary people can Wipe an adult's behind, disimpact them, clean up their puke, do wound care on limbs that are falling off due to gangrene, and many other nasty disgusting things, and ALL with a smile on our face to try and hide what we really think and feel. How many times have you had to actually use a surgical scrub brush on a human trying to get months of filth off of a homeless person? And It takes many days of scrubbing for the skin to actually look like it has been washed, and how do you think that same body smelled? How many microorganisms have you acquired as a result of the direct care that you have cared for? HIV, AIDS, TB? Doesn't sound like you have exposed your family to anything as a direct result of your profession either? And that doesn't even address the politics that are inherent in every facility that provides care.

I think we deserve to be paid what we're worth, a hell of a lot more!

G'Day Sport!

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Specializes in oncology, surgical stepdown, ACLS & OCN.
Here's the thing.

You desire folks to respect you as an ADN- RN with many years of professional experience, yet you are heaping disrespect on international colleagues. You don't appreciate it when the "BSN is key" argument is pushed on you, yet you covertly denigrate international RN's!

Nursing practice laws differ from state to state and definitely from country to country. In all places they may not do all the procedures certain US nurses are allowed to do, but with certainty, they may be efficient in sophisticated medical procedures that may be out of the US RN's (legal) scope.

Medical sophistication is not solely the domain of our USA!

There are nursing schools in the US that are graduating clinical featherweights. The same thing is happening internationally. They should ALL be shut down!

There are crappy nurses worldwide. There are also good nurses all over this world. Lets celebrate those good nurses! :lol2::balloons:

I am not heaping disrespect on BSN's, I am planning to go into an accelerated

BSN program, so I can work in a different capacity later. I probably won't make the money I make now. I will probably start this program in january of next year.I am well aware that nsg. laws differ, that is why all international nurses need to take the same nclex we take, which by the way should be changed.

WE all carry the same license and take the same NCLEX test therefore we are all

RN.'s.

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Specializes in Trauma ICU,ER,ACLS/BLS instructor.
Just to be a total smart aleck..........

I was starting IVs as a layperson, and my nursing program also had us start IVs within the first year.

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I am sure that you could train a monkey to start an IV if you needed to......but they still couldn't function as a nurse. Just as you could probably teach them to intubate, but it wouldnt make them an MD. Because nursing is a lot more than IV starts. And medicine is more than intubation.

If one judges our fellow nurses by single skills, we are being quite shortsighted.

I agree! In critical care areas especially , I have often noted many focus on machines and certain "procedures" yet seem to lack the critical thinking needed to function safely. Robots are being trained to perform many tasks these days, when nurses become task oriented they are not functioning at the level of their profession they were meant too.

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Specializes in Hospice, Med Surg, Long Term.

I don't make any posts based upon the credentials of another. It makes no difference to me how a RN is prepared, in America, and unless you're a NP, we pretty much make the same money. In different geographical areas, the wage may vary a bit. What a RN is able to do and not do varies in America also, depending upon the state you are in, and the specialty you are in. It does not depend upon an ADN or BSN. In a clinical area, the difference between the two degrees is what initials are behind your name. Sooooo.......sorry if you're offended.

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Specializes in Hospice, Med Surg, Long Term.

Oh, I don't care where a RN is from either. If you were here or we were there, we would still have the same job duties, too. So, if your are BSN prepared, an international nurse, and offended, you need not be.

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Specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.
Yes, I think US. nurses do alot more than nurses overseas.

I think this is very a sweeping and fairly insulting statement to make, there are such difference between healthcare cultures I am not sure that you could even begin to make comparisons such as this.

How can you compare the responsibilities of a US and UK nurse for example when the differences in the healthcare system, funding and nurse to patient ratios differ so greatly.

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Specializes in Cardiac/Tele, Med Surg, Home Health.

that depends on where you live. i live in a small town. the little hospital here is wage deprived. i travel 30 minutes to a larger hospital and the pay is well, i guess ok.

the larger cities surrounding me pay much better. it is not just the different regions of the world it even can hit close to home.

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Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.

I think American nurses have every right to be upset about the comment made that nurses are rich in the US. The OP seemed to want to "stir up" ppl. It seems he/she got the reaction he/she wanted. It put US nurses on the defensive. You should not have to justify to the rest of the world what you earn. Goodness, rent, morgage payments, food, health, education and other domestic costs all need to be factored in, as do exchange rates internationally.The comment embarrassed Australian nurses such as myself.

I am upset myself though at thestatement that nurses in other countries don't do as much as nurses in the US. And I really appreciate those who have come out in support.

Lets be nurses, lets discuss the pros and cons of nursing generally. It is a shared experience. And we can help each other a lot; it doesn't matter what country we are in.

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Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.

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Lets be nurses, lets discuss the pros and cons of nursing generally. It is a shared experience. And we can help each other a lot; it doesn't matter what country we are in.

agreed.

i think the camaraderie shared by many on this board, is r/t our commonalities, while respecting our differences.

we certainly do not need any more division.

whatever the differences are, we're in it together.

leslie

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Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.
agreed.

i think the camaraderie shared by many on this board, is r/t our commonalities, while respecting our differences.

we certainly do not need any more division.

whatever the differences are, we're in it together.

leslie

Yes lets go and make money and play lots of golf.

what else matters, ehhhh

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