Resident dies and nurse is to blame

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We had a resident die recently and he was a very brittle diabetic, on a continuous tube feeding and a full code. (thankfully he was not on my hall). This res. blood sugar would sky rocket so high the CBG machine could not even read it. When he would get his insulin he would drop down into the 30's. The Dr. had been called numerous times regarding his insulin dosage, so that was changing daily, I don't know how high a dose or what long acting he was getting, I just know he was very brittle.

For about 4 days this man would refuse his insulin, he was alert and oriented and therefore was able to refuse, he did not want his insulin for fear of bottoming out. the nurse on dayshift would chart that he refused his insulin at 8am and noon. But she never charted that she called the doc, the evening nurse only gave him insulin at 5pm, and res refused insulin at 9pm, the nurse never charted this nor called the doc. The night shift nurse comes in and the res requested his blood sugar be take, the ,machine would not read it, the nurse called the dr and told him about the blood sugar being to high to read, and that the res had also been refusing his insulin for the last few days. the doctor said that was his right if he didn't want the insulin then we can't give it to him. so he didn't give her any new orders or even tell her to give insulin.

Later that night during the CNA rounds they found him unresponsive without resp or pulse. so the nurse started CPR and called EMS. and did all the necessary steps that she was suppose to do. The nurse was off for the next 2 days after that, when she came back to work, she worked her shift and when her shift was over, she was called to the office and put on suspension pending the investigation into this guys death. The DON asked her why she didn't give the insulin, the nurse told her she didnt have an order for it, and the DON told her she should have given it anyway.

So now she is on suspension and will probably not be coming back. I think it's wrong for them to suspend her when she did everything she was suppose to do, she charted that she called the doc, told him that res had refused insulin on previous shift, and that his CBG was extremely high, doc gave no order to give insulin because res would refuse it. So the nurse gets in trouble for not giving insulin to the res. How is she to blame ??

I am not sure why she didn't push the dr for an order, other than maybe the doctor had been called several times in the last few days about the residents blood sugar and the resident refusing his insulin that the doctor figured he would just refuse anyway. like I said, he was never my pt. But nothing was done about the 3-11 nurse not charting his refusal nor calling the Dr. and the nurse quit today. I don't know why, I heard from the staffing coordinator that she came in got her paycheck and told him she quit and never gave a reason. This facility has fired soo many nurses in the last 6 months that I'm afraid to go to work for fear of getting fired for something that was hearsay or for doing the right thing, we had been told by our DON not to send anyone out to the hosp unless we absolutely have to, because they don't want the census to drop. another 11-7 nurse got wrote up for sending a res out who has Hx COPD and was in resp distress, she wrote her up for not assessing her lung sounds, nurse said res couldn't breath, she got her O2 and she felt that she needed to send her out right away. res ended up in ICU with pneumonia and died a few weeks later at the hosp.DON told that nurse that corporated was coming down on her cause they were sending to many res to the hosp.

so what do you do ?? If you send them out to the hosp you get wrote up, and if you don't they die. , you still get wrote up or suspended. I wish there were more opprotunites for LPN's here. But there isn't much. You can't trust anyone. Everyone is so quick to throw ya under the bus.

Physician is more to blame than the nurse, but the facility it probably too scared to confront him and his poor insulin regiment, so they target the nurse. If I were the nurse, I would tell them directly that I did nothing wrong and that I will be hiring legal assistance for the wrongful suspension.

Our machines quit reading after 500 or maybe 600. I wouldnt feel comfotable not covering that. If the res refused and the doctor said he wasnt giving an order for it (because the res would refuse)...you better believe I am doing some cya. Chart everything, let the supervisorl or someone above you know, let the family know.

We cant force a res to take meds or treatments, just educate the risks and document.

To the op....do you use INTERACT. It is a program that helps reduce hosp transfers.

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.

Well this is just a classic example of why CYA charting is so important...even if you think you are doing enough, you probably aren't. Which is sad considering that everything can be done 'right,' but one little missed noted, and they whole thing comes back to bite you in the calf. It is necessary to chart not the just the calls to the doc, but what was discussed. Chart the refusals by the pt. It is also necessary to not just chart "pt was educated on importance of following insulin regimen" [incidentally, if you are going to chart it correctly, there is no T...regimenT is the military unit--sorry to have to bring that up, but it was really bugging me], but chart specifically what was talked about and the specific risks that were discussed with the pt (i.e., DKA, permanent kidney/eye damage, possible loss of limbs, etc, etc.). Even then it might not be enough, but its what needs to be done by the nurse to (hopefully) avoid getting blamed for the outcome.

I've never heard of a 'refusal of care' form either. We simply document in the chart/EMAR that the resident refused meds. We always explain and document the risks to the patient of refusing the meds and/or care. People are not prisoners and are allowed to refuse and make bad decisions. IF there was no order for insulin, the nurse could have had her license revoked for giving medications without an order. I'll bet there is more to this story than we know.

I'll agree there's probably more we (including the OP) don't know about this story.

Sure, the night nurse called the physician, but did she give him all the pertinent information? Was he (the patient) presenting symptoms? Did the nurse even check a set of vitals? Maybe the reason this nurse is suspended is because she didn't show due diligence? Maybe the other nurses are under investigation, too. Maybe the whole bit about the DON saying the insulin should've been given anyway is just hearsay.

It's possible this nurse is just being thrown under the bus and the DON is an idiot. It's also possible nobody really knows what happened or what's going on.

There's been a number of so-called "sentinel events" at my facility. Rumors run wild and the truth is often a tightly guarded secret that those in the know won't (or can't) share with staff.

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.

I also blame the facility. Why was there not a plan of care conference with the family and patient? If the guy wants to refuse his insulin, is a/o, then the facility should have pushed for a POLST form, or whatever you do in a SNF. Secondly, sounds like the guy needed an endocrinologist visit.

After calling the MD, I would have called the family to see if they could have talked the pt into his insulin and asked them what they wanted me to do. I had to laugh at the DNS forcing the patient the take his insulin. I agree with another poster. Would that have been considered battery? Secondly, had the nurse given the insulin and bottomed the guy out to the point he died, she would have been screwed.

I would have been tempted to call 911 and let the ED deal with it. Of course that probably would have gotten the nurse fired too.:wacky:

There are all kinds of rumors swirling around there. I know some of it is not true. I also know that although I am actively looking for another job, I am very seriously considering leaving without getting another job first. I have found that there is no one in this field that you can trust. and that saddens me, i was really hoping to make some nurse friends, but I don't feel like I can trust any. I always felt that nursing was a calling for me and this was something that I was "suppose" to do. But now, I don't think I want to work in a field where nurses will throw you under the bus and not stand up or support each other. There is always a nurse trying to get other nurses in trouble to make herself look good. I'm very frustrated and tired...we are now back to working 11 days a pay period with 1 day off. I'm tired. I don't think I can do it anymore.

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.

This is off topic, but 11 days in a pay period? Don't you know the word "No", or "I'm busy that day." You're not an indentured servant.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
There are all kinds of rumors swirling around there. I know some of it is not true. I also know that although I am actively looking for another job I am very seriously considering leaving without getting another job first. I have found that there is no one in this field that you can trust. and that saddens me, i was really hoping to make some nurse friends, but I don't feel like I can trust any. I always felt that nursing was a calling for me and this was something that I was "suppose" to do. But now, I don't think I want to work in a field where nurses will throw you under the bus and not stand up or support each other. There is always a nurse trying to get other nurses in trouble to make herself look good. I'm very frustrated and tired...we are now back to working 11 days a pay period with 1 day off. I'm tired. I don't think I can do it anymore.[/quote']

OP, nursing is a career, all day long...each career had the same issues. That dies not mean every facility is run like this. The point is, DOCUMENTATION and going up the ladder is VERY important, and if all else fails, writing an incident report or reporting to the local ombudsman about how a facility is ran.

As far as "making nurse friends" as you state, remember what I said about nursing as a career; business is business-make sure you are advocating for the patient, as well as yourself; there are plenty of ways to socialize with nurses, whether with your local chapters of your state nurses association and your former nursing school cohorts that you choose.

Make sure your nursing practice is intact, that is what matters. :yes:

This is off topic, but 11 days in a pay period? Don't you know the word "No", or "I'm busy that day." You're not an indentured servant.

that is the way we are scheduled and we are only getting a weekly schedule. I am working every night from Sat thru Thur and the new schedule comes out thur, so I have no idea when my next day off will be. Another nurse had been scheduled 2 doubles and working 9 days straight. If we call in we get wrote up for poor attendance.

This is off topic, but 11 days in a pay period? Don't you know the word "No", or "I'm busy that day." You're not an indentured servant.

11 days in a pay period would give three days off wouldn't it, if the pay period is for two weeks. How is the 11 days done? I have done 11 worked for example

Worked: Mon,Tues,Wednesday,Thurs, Friday

Off: Sat & Sun

Worked: Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs

Off: Fri

Worked: Sat & Sun

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