Religious believes expressed in nursing theories. For or against

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Hello everybody,

I am a BSN student taking a nursing theory class at the moment. I was wondering what is everybody's opinion regarding expressing religious believes in nursing theories. Does it offend you to find the word "God" when reading about certain theories. Example : "Persons have mutual relationships with the world and God" (Quote from my theory book re works of Sister Callista Roy)

I am Catholic myself so I do not find such statements offensive...I am just wondering what others think on this topic

Thanks:heartbeat

I wouldn't treat you any differently than a Roman Catholic priest, other than reading your religious texts. I don't see how you could possibly be offended.

We haven't met yet. Nice to meet you. I am sorry. I am in a stage in my life where I don't comment on religions. I am trying something new. I made my displeasure known in as diplomatic way as I could and now I am done.

It was however more to do with your tone though. I found the tone offensive. Offense is a personal thing though and in the grand scheme of things nothing to get all worked up about. I just couldn't in good conscience let someone slide the bad tone all wrapped up in 'religion' to get past without saying something.

Let's just say Jesus would be proud of my... self restraint.

Specializes in Med surg, Critical Care, LTC.

Approximately 6 years ago, I was picking up hours on our ortho floor. I had this patient, he was 7 years old, with a fx femur, in traction, and was to be in this position for a minimum of 6 weeks. Anyway, his mother would come in to see him during the day, as she worked nights, she would leave at about 1500 to go home and sleep before work. In his care plan was a "duty" his nurse, whoever she was, had to do before he went to bed at night. Help him say his prayers. He was Baptist. The prayer was similar to the "now I lay me down to sleep" version, but different in parts. This was the request of his mother, as it was part of his bedtime routine, and his upbringing.

None of us minded this "treatment" as it was listed under treatments in his care plan. It didn't matter what OUR religious beliefs were, what mattered was this patient.

I cannot believe any nurse would disregard a "treatment" such as this, because of the NURSES beliefs.

I suppose you wouldn't care for a young women who had an abortion? Or a gay HIV patient.

I'm just astounded - and not in a good way.:banghead:

Specializes in Advanced Care.

Your a card carrying member of the NRA, that we do have in common. Start a thread on firearms in nursing, something we can agree on.

Nobody has said anything demeaning to you Stanley, what are you taking offense too and what have I "handed you?"

mr. bailey,

it is indeed offensive, to think of all our pts who you would be doing a disservice to.

what don't you understand, that we are there to accommodate our pts, and not vice-versa?

with the peace of God's love,

leslie

Specializes in being a Credible Source.
I suppose you wouldn't care for a young women who had an abortion? Or a gay HIV patient.

And I am likewise astounded, and not in a good way, that you would draw such absurd conclusions from my decision to leave the things of the spirit to those qualified in their practice.

Shall I begin to start drawing similarly ridiculous conclusions about you? Of course I shouldn't.

Specializes in Advanced Care.

Don't assume Babs, it makes an......you know.

I would care for an HIV patient or a woman with 100 abortions the same way I care for every other patient; in the image of Christ the healer.

I would have happily prayed with the child. If the child wanted the prayer to Mohommad read, no, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't make a scene or reprimand the child, but I would have another nurse do it.

I think conviction is the word here.

Specializes in Critical Care.
Don't assume Babs, it makes an......you know.

I would care for an HIV patient or a woman with 100 abortions the same way I care for every other patient; in the image of Christ the healer.

I would have happily prayed with the child. If the child wanted the prayer to Mohommad read, no, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't make a scene or reprimand the child, but I would have another nurse do it.

I think conviction is the word here.

Soo.... basically you disregard that whole part about caring for our patients' spiritual needs unless, of course, they happen to align with yours?

Even I have 'pretended' to pray with someone to make them feel better when they asked... Even if I do think it is ridiculous and irrational.

Specializes in being a Credible Source.
Let's just say Jesus would be proud of my... self restraint.

OK, Stanley, the Nobel Prize was one thing... I'm NOT nominating you for sainthood. :no::chuckle

Well, I'm not Catholic so I probably couldn't anyway.

Specializes in Advanced Care.

I can't meet the spiritual needs of someone of a different religion and I certainly wouldn't "fake it".

I still have to perform 1 more miracle.

#1 was actually pretending to pray

#2 was keeping my irreverent comments in.

#3 is still up in the air...

Specializes in being a Credible Source.
Soo.... basically you disregard that whole part about caring for our patients' spiritual needs unless, of course, they happen to align with yours?

My tending to their spiritual needs, even if they happened to perfectly align with my own, would be to refer them to the right person, just as I would refer them to a social worker to help address their social needs.

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