Reapplying

[Mcl1980]

I got into an RN program this past semester. I did well in clinical, but failed by 5 points in theory. I did have some circumstances involving a learning disability and new meds.

I am reapplying, but the C- dropped me from 3.3 to 3.1 since it was a 7 credit course. I am applying at new schools and considering LPN as fall back, but I do not want to get paid less for the same job as RN.

Any suggestions on RN, and those that went RN from LPN are appreciated. I am located in upstate NY, in the Rochester area.

[Mcl1980]

What schools did you go to?

[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

What schools did you go to?

I attended...

1. An LVN program in southern California

2. An LPN-to-ASN bridge program in Oklahoma

3. An online RN-to-BSN completion program

[Mcl1980]

If you could, please post link of online BSN program. Also if anyone can post upstate NY schools, please do so. Thank you.

[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

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[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

If you could, please post link of online BSN program. Also if anyone can post upstate NY schools, please do so. Thank you.

Online University | Online Degree Programs | WGU

[Mcl1980]

Any of those, as in DPN, Masters, or Phd. Clearly you have trouble with deductive reasoning. And just a terrible person in general.

[Mcl1980]

You have been very helpful. Thank you. The site appears to be a mixed bag though. A substantial amount of users are passive-agressive narcisists, who take any opportunity to elevate themselves by putting down others. AliNajaCat comes to mind.

[AliNajaCat]

Oh, heck, I'll bite.

Au contraire, I spend a good deal of my life trying to give others the benefit of experience they haven't had time to get for themselves yet, to better themselves. It's not just my opinion that CNAs, LPNs, students and new nurses don't always have a clear view of the difference between levels pf practice because they see just "what they can do" (meaning manipulative skills we can teach anyone) and what nurses are, meaning the difference between legal and statutory levels of practice and responsibility (not always immediately obvious to the comparatively naive observer).

As a clarification, if I remember correctly, you said you had not done well in school and asked specifically if anyone had experience going from LPN to RN. Perhaps I misread you, but I took that to mean that you were considering being an LPN based on your progress in your RN program thus far. Unfortunately, while that used to be an option, it isn't any more.

You then said something about not wanting to do a job (LPN) for less pay for the same work. I said, no it's not the same work; another helpful poster followed up by quoting relevant standards of practice for RN vs LPN. These are factual statements, whether or not they conform with a particular world view.

Bear in mind that these threads are not private communications; usually, when somebody raises a question, as you did, there are others who wonder about the same thing, so often the explanations are aimed a bit more generally than you might have envisioned in your original post. I believe that's what's going on here.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

[Nature_walker, ASN, BSN, RN]

Did you let you school know that you had learning disabilities and that you might need accommodations? I saw more than one student who had documentation to prove that they needed accommodations however did not turn in their paperwork thinking that they could go without. Several of them did not pass and then asked for help. Unfortunately, it was too little too late for them. I know of only one that got back in, but again it was due to medical leave midterm. My school stated in the first term that if you needed accommodations it was better to come forward at the begining of the program than to wait until you were a term or two in. I worry that you know you need a little extra and were not proactive in asking for it. I let my profs know up front that I'm dyslexic but I did not need any accommodations. Slightly ironic in my case as I taught English for years....

[applesxoranges, BSN, RN]

LPN and RN is not the same job although an RN can work an LPN job. I hear this about paramedics and RNs all the same time and I have to explain the differences.

There is also no shame in becoming an LPN and then eventually deciding to go back to RN as long as you do not over pay for an LPN program. A friend of mine was in an LPN program and she completed a bridge. Her significant other failed out of our RN program, became an LPN, and graduated last semester through the bridge program.

[Ruby Vee, BSN]

Way to avoid the main question. Second, there is a big difference between what certain job titles are supposed to do, and what they actually do. Good job with the backhanded compilments. And finally, I talked with several LPNs in RN programs, and they do the SAME basic job. Even hand out meds, which they are NOT SUPPOSED to do, but have to due to staff shortages.

If anyone has any COBSTRUCTIVE advice, and not being defensive about their JOB titles, I would appreciate it.

"Cobstructive advice"? Is that advice from a Crusty Old Bat or something?

LPN and RN are two different jobs. LPNs may believe it's the same job, but since they've never experienced the RN position, they don't know what they don't know. Ask a few RNs whether or not it's the same basic job.

[Ruby Vee, BSN]

You have been very helpful. Thank you. The site appears to be a mixed bag though. A substantial amount of users are passive-agressive narcisists, who take any opportunity to elevate themselves by putting down others. AliNajaCat comes to mind.

Thank you for brightening my day with such an amusing post. AliNajaCat is an experienced nurse and teacher and is probably one of the best sources of helpful advice on here. But when you only "listen" to what you want to hear, you may miss that along with other valuable advice.

Do yourself a favor and cut down on the nasty attitude and name calling -- you'll find more posters are more willing to help you out that way.