"That having been said..."

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A while back someone on here (a non-nurse, I believe) posted a thread about a friend not being treated well in the hopital, pt's pain not being controlled, pt's basic needs not being met, etc. (I don't say 'etc.' to minimize what she said, I just do not want to rehash it all). In the end, she asked what had happened to basic nursing care?. Again, I don't want to relive that post and I don't need an answer to that.

My question here is about one of the reponses. A person (a nurse, I believe) posted that nursing care has gone downhill because hospitals are now requiring BSN nurses and there is not a place for ADN or diploma nurses. She went on to say something to the effect that basic nursing care has been replaced by "stupid" phrases such as "that having been said..." Again, I don't want this to become an ADN vs. BSN thread. I just want to know what is wrong with saying "that having been said..." or similar phrases. Why is this phrase "stupid?" I say this a lot...does this make me stupid? :eek:

Feel free to add your thoughts. Any other examples of "stupid" phrases? Why do you consider them stupid? (Please!!! resist any urge to blast BSNs or ADNs.) Thanks!

Specializes in ICU.
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Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

What does "that having been said" even mean?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big grammar wonk.

But that phrase just seems pretentious and its only purpose is to make the user sound smarter.

What's wrong with a plain old "however" or "on the other hand"?

Specializes in Gerontology, nursing education.

Verbal quirks of habit don't bother me. I am guilty of peppering my conversation with a few on occasion.

On the other hand, I just about LOSE my patience when people write about LOOSING weight or LOOSING a job or LOOSING their minds. It's lose, not loose!

Grammatically, the only posts that irritate me are: (Example)

B4 u read this, plz plz think about wot I'm sayin' coz I really need ur help wid this..."

Yes, I have noticed more than a few posts in this vain. Grrrr...please write out the proper words.

I, um, think you mean "vein." >.>

Specializes in ER.

Well, "we used to do it like that" but "with that being said" I'd have to point out that "it is what it is", however, you need "to roll with the punches" and "pay attention to detail" or get caught up in the "he said, she said" stuff but I'd advise you to not be "vain" in your search for a "vein" of humor and "on the other hand" you may disregard my advice and "follow the beat of a different drum" but "having said that" I guess we can all "agree to disagree" huh?

Specializes in PACU, OR.
I, um, think you mean "vein." >.>

Well, "we used to do it like that" but "with that being said" I'd have to point out that "it is what it is", however, you need "to roll with the punches" and "pay attention to detail" or get caught up in the "he said, she said" stuff but I'd advise you to not be "vain" in your search for a "vein" of humor and "on the other hand" you may disregard my advice and "follow the beat of a different drum" but "having said that" I guess we can all "agree to disagree" huh?

Fribblet moonlights as a proof reader for "True Romance".... oops, sorry, wrong thread; my bad (ARRRRGGHHHH!!!)

lckrn, excellent advise, but I don't know if it'll have any affect. We'll just have to keep on monitoring the pots :bugeyes::nuke::smokin:

All your base are belong to moi....:lol2:

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Well, "we used to do it like that" but "with that being said" I'd have to point out that "it is what it is", however, you need "to roll with the punches" and "pay attention to detail" or get caught up in the "he said, she said" stuff but I'd advise you to not be "vain" in your search for a "vein" of humor and "on the other hand" you may disregard my advice and "follow the beat of a different drum" but "having said that" I guess we can all "agree to disagree" huh?

That's well done!!!!:yeah::yeah::lol2::lol2:

Specializes in Cardiology and ER Nursing.
Fribblet moonlights as a proof reader for "True Romance".... oops, sorry, wrong thread; my bad (ARRRRGGHHHH!!!)

lckrn, excellent advise, but I don't know if it'll have any affect. We'll just have to keep on monitoring the pots :bugeyes::nuke::smokin:

All your base are belong to moi....:lol2:

You have no chance to survive make your time!

Specializes in Cardiology and ER Nursing.

I have a T-Shirt that says "All your base are belong to us" on the front and "Somebody set up us the bomb" on the back. :up: I also have another shirt that says "There are 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that don't." :D

Specializes in PACU, OR.
I have a T-Shirt that says "All your base are belong to us" on the front and "Somebody set up us the bomb" on the back. :up: I also have another shirt that says "There are 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that don't." :D

You have just given me a brilliant idea for gifts....

Specializes in Cardiology and ER Nursing.
You have just given me a brilliant idea for gifts....

I probably have about 15 T-Shirts with various things on them. My favorite one is probably. "Do you want to talk to the DOCTOR in charge, or the NURSE who actually knows what's going on?" The one that says "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" is probably my second favorite.

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