"That nurse is vile" (long)

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I have resisted posting about this for a few months now. I keep hoping the pain will subside but nothing is shifting.

I had a patient complain about me. Can't, or won't, give details due to potential HIPPA violation. Let it suffice to say this was a patient well known to the hospital. A wise employee n was sure to have another employee in the room for every encounter, and I did.

I returned from lunch to find out that the patient had called patient relations, who called the unit manager. I was removed from the patient's care with no explanation as to what had been said. As I'm giving report to the nurse taking over the patient the nurse tells me " (the patient) called you vile" (definition - morally bad, wicked).

I work for a system wide pool so my manager is off site. I called her Monday morning (incident occurred Friday 7a-7p shift) to tell her briefly what had happened and to give her a heads up that I was sending a very detailed email and would appreciate her feedback after she read it. Left her a message Tuesday morning since I hadn't heard from her. Emailed her Thursday asking her to call. She finally called Friday morning on my hospital issue phone while I was back at work on that same unit. She vilified me! Told me "very serious accusations were made about you" but wouldn't tell me what they were. She cited things contrary to the very detailed email I had sent her. Repeatedly. I wasn't written up or placed in any sort of corrective action, just "counseled" which went like this "the next time you discharge a patient ask them 'is there anything I can do to facilitate your discharge'" (yes, the above mentioned patient was scheduled to be discharged).

This manager is a person whom I had worked for a year. I found her to be a straight shooter, professional and fair. She didn't always tell me what I wanted to hear but she was always respectful. I felt she had my back. It's difficult to go from hospital to hospital, floor to floor, and down right impossible if you have no support for when the crap gets stirred (because we all know that it can and does). I feel betrayed, shamed and fearful for my job. I was cancelled 6 out of the next 10 shifts immediately after this. The entire year prior I had been cancelled maybe 3 times.

Looking for insight from wise peers. Yes, I know, look for another job. I have been and will continue to do so. I have no doubt about the necessity of that plan of action. My problem is that I am demoralized by this. Thought I had thicker skin but this has wrecked me. To be called "vile", among other things that I don't know, and to have that accusation supported by someone I respected is too much. Advice please and please be gentle. This is a very open wound.

Thanks for reading.

The feeling that one is always under the gun and subject to being shoved around would be enough for me to look for another job. I think that getting away from there would be in line since there is not enough integrity to either back you up or to even tell you what was said. The faster you go, the faster you can start feeling good about yourself again. Good luck in finding a new position soon.

Specializes in Critical Care.

I don't know your situation but in your need to clear your name, perhaps you are coming across as too defensive and desperate.

I guess I wouldn't have brought it up, unless, until the manager said something. This patient was a known troublemaker to the point where you felt you needed a witness so they probably have complained about others and fired others before you.

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, see if things die down and hopefully you don't keep getting canceled and it blows over. Hopefully you won't have to get a new job over this person's complaint.

In my experiences, nurses are criticized by patients and managers sometimes, but in the next breath after they are down scolding you, they are begging you to come in on your off day! No respect, some people think we are just around to be browbeaten and then they think we'll jump to do them a favor. I don't know about you, but that's not how I respond! So your anger is totally understandable under the circumstances.

Cool down, take some time before you say anything more. If the manager doesn't have your back there's nothing you can do to change it. It's just your word against the patient. This will pass, your not the first or last nurse to get complained about or fired by a patient.

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.

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Awarded this day, Wednesday, 7th of December, in the year of our Lord 2011,

Let it be known to all that PintheD is honorarily certified asVileby the State of Oklahoma (as we are unaware of her state of residence).

Said certification allows PintheD to perform acts of trechery, malfeasance, bebauchery and general perfidy with (or without) indemnity.

Should any be unimpressed with this certification, let them be free to Go To He!!

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.

Poop. Formatting didn't carry over.:confused: Don't sweat it, it happens. I am known as a "hurter of feelings".

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

You have a right to knwo the complaints and defend yourself. I would still have a sit down in person talk with the manager....

Specializes in LTC Rehab Med/Surg.

I'm impressed that such a pea brained pt came up with the word "vile".

That's a seriously descriptive high brow word.

I wonder if they use it on every nurse that cares for them?

Probably.

Looking for insight from wise peers.

My observation is that this is a problem now that hospitals are a business. There appears to be management in charge without a "soul".

The bottom line and money issues appear to be front and center.

When a customer complains, the red phone(hotline ) rings and the staff member is wrong. The theory is that the customer is always right.

If you worked for this manager for 1 year she knows you, and should

have backed you up. She knows your work and dedication, and now you know where you stand.

As an aside...

Nursing can be a difficult business. I remember when I started a nurse on our unit won the State Nurse of the Year award.

To work with her revealed why. She was a role model and gave top notch

care. She found another job a year later and after years of dedicated service to our hospital had a disappointment.

Our nurse manager refused to give her a reference! She was crushed and

went on to another position. Two weeks later, our nurse manager gave her notice, because she was leaving the country to get married.

Personally, I felt that nursing management can play some very heartbreaking games with dedicated nurses.

My feeling, you know the professional care you provide, look for another position where you will be appreciated.............

Specializes in Peri-op/Sub-Acute ANP.
I'm impressed that such a pea brained pt came up with the word "vile".

That's a seriously descriptive high brow word.

I wonder if they use it on every nurse that cares for them?

Probably.

I might be wrong, but I think the OP is substituting the word "vile" for what she was really called by this patient because it would get her thrown off the board is she actually said what this pt called her.

I might be wrong, but I think the OP is substituting the word "vile" for what she was really called by this patient because it would get her thrown off the board is she actually said what this pt called her.

No, that is what she called me and I consider it highly offensive. Much rather be called a "b****".

Thank you Rob72! I humbly accept my award and will go forth proudly exhibiting all the qualities bestowed upon me today.

Thanks to each of you for your comments.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Yes, verbal offenses from patients are not a rarity unfortunately. I worked agency in Detroit and NYC for years and couldn't have done that if I didn't have a thick skin. The problem here is that my manager supported these unfounded accusations. If she had complained about my paperwork or even my attitude my response would be vastly different. She supported a patients accusations of me, the only one I know specifically is that of being called "vile". That's an assault of my character. It's wrong. It's unjust. All a person really has is their reputation - someone wise said that....

Truth be told I believe a lot of what I'm feeling is anger.

This is good. Thanks for your post, sincerely. In explaining myself to you I gained more clarity as to why I'm feeling so raw over this.

I was back stabbed by a respective collegue once.....AND IT STILL HURTS. I think it's the betrayal, mine was also a friend which made it all the more offensive. Your manager has obviously has bowed to the current atmosphere in nursing where press gainey score rule and the patient that have always manipulated the system now have all the power. BUt I think it's the betrayal, hurt and anger of how unjustly you've been treated.

No one can make you feel inferior without you permission (Elenor Roosevelt). NOw you know where your boss stands and don't be duped twice, but in finding another position remember you may find a larger wolf. I am so sorry you are going through this :hug:.

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