"A monkey can be trained to do what you nurses do"

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yes. that is exactly what i heard a cardiologist tell a cath lab nurse when i took a patient having an acute MI to the cath lab. i was completely and utterly floored by his comment. apparently the room was not prepared to receive the patient and the doc had a fit. one nurse looked like she was near tears. another just walked out. we all were in front of the patient so i think the nurses did not want to confront the doc right there at that moment. when he was out the patients view he slammed down the charts and slammed doors. i coudn't believe the behavior. i know some docs can be nasty, but i just can't see myself putting up with such humiliation. people do what you allow them to and apparently this doc hasn't run across the right nurse yet. if a monkey can do what nurses do, then why isn't he doing it? i mentioned the incidence to my nursing sup. and she was angry and promised to look into it. since i only work ED i felt uncomfortable getting directly involved. how have you guys dealt with situations like this?

Specializes in oncology, surgical stepdown, ACLS & OCN.

I work in a teaching hospital ( phila. region) And I can not believe what I'm seeing as some of the first year residents each month as they rotate. The medical guys aren't bad, but first year surgical residents are like scared children, or they walk around like they know everything, when you need a central line placed, they can't do it w/o help from a surgical fellow. I think doc's should treat nurses with respect, after all, while they're sleeping at night, us monkey's or robuts as they think we are, are making sure their patients are getting what they ordered!!!!! we are also there when if and when they code!!!!! Nursing education is totally different from going to med

school.

:angryfire :angryfire

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Specializes in 6 years of ER fun, med/surg, blah, blah.

Monkey see monkey so, monkey do all over you. I just had to get a sock monkey lunch box. Our nursing bowling team is called the "Flying Monkeys" after a comment our ED Doc made one night to the local drunk with pancreatitis, who requested demerol for abd pain. "Wild monkeys will fly out of my a** before I give you any demerol. Whoops, no monkeys." And he would quickly turn around to try to catch a view of his own posterior. I have read that the nursing shortage is being addressed to Docs & how they can help keep the numbers of nurses declining by acting like decent human beings. There is no excuse for any kind of abuse.

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Love the 'Code Prince Charming'....now there's a facility that knows how their docs behave and does something productive! wish they all would! Too often a doc starts screaming and flinging things and everybody scatters like roaches, to avoid involvement.

Gee are some docs really seeing that how they treat nurses may be part of the dropping numbers of people joining and staying in the nursing profession? AMAZING. I am impressed. Now...lets see if anything changes...the real test, eh? Talk is cheap.

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatric, Behavioral Health.

A doctor's behavior is often a reflection of the hospital ethic, especially if it is known and allowed to happen. It is an abuse of power.

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Where I work there is a policy implemented that we can write up doctors throw temper tantrums, degrade and berate us in front of patients, etc. Apparently, if a complaint is received, the MD will be counseled and the behavior will stop. BIG FAT LIE! We write up the same MD week after week, hoping that it may make a difference, but not a d*#n thing is ever done about it. Yes, we talk to our manager, and up the food chain, but it still doesn't make a difference. The same MDs are there, acting the same way. The only thing that is worse is if the MD finds out who actually filed the complaint, well, that Nurse better watch out. I think the entire "Write up a MD" policy was to make Nurses feel like they are being listened to.

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Specializes in oncology, surgical stepdown, ACLS & OCN.
A doctor's behavior is often a reflection of the hospital ethic, especially if it is known and allowed to happen. It is an abuse of power.

This behavior of doctor's talking down to nurses in our hospital is not tolerated by the nsg. department, it is slowly but surely disapating. If and when it does occur the incident is written up and doctors have been reprimanded. I think that some of the nurses from the 60's, and 70's, being around the time of women's liberation were pushed around by male doc's, and didn't report it. I am a nurse, a career I chose at the age of 38 years old. I started to further my education last year, but decided against it. I'm in my early 50's and after 15 years in the nsg field, I can see the lack of respect for nurses, regardless of how much education you have. Nurses have a lot of power, but they don't know how to make it work for them.

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Specializes in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc.

Wow..I find this to be so common with cardiologists and urologists, what do they teach them in school??? Arrogance 305????

I have actually had a intern tell me this once, and I just laughed, scratched my head and proceeded to monkey walk out the door (I wasn't known at that hospital for being a nice quiet nurse...LOL!).

Now this was noc shift and near Christmas...and we had quite a humor level!!! And we loved a good challenge to diss an intern in a way no one would ever forget...and I guess this guy had done this many times! So when I told the other nurses and we got together, had one nurse go down to the cafeteria and get as many banana's as she could..then we put them into the Docs lobby (in a lovely basket we got from some Docs at Christmas full of lovely food) with a note to him that we were donating our paychecks to him so he could have cranial-rectal surgery! Oh it was hillarious!!!!!!!!! Docs even cracked up and said "we told you not to mess with the nurses! They will get ya and get ya good!".

Every doc in that place saw those banana's...so this poor little ignorant intern was dubbed Chimpo for the rest of his internship, and yes..even over the speakers "Dr. Chimpo...line 384...". LOL!!!!! We even sent him a sock monkey vodoo doll for Christmas with pins glued in certain spots!

Thank goodness I guess we weren't the only department with probelms in regards to him...or we may have gotten in a bit of trouble for not being very professional...either that or that place needed some humor so badly that the entire hospital..cooks, receptionists, janitorial, everyone jumped in on this one!!!!!!

Ohhhhh memories!!!!!!! Good times Good times!!!!!! About my only funny one working there, but it was a doozie!!!!

Don't do this unless you know you won't get in trouble..LOL! But it was too funny not to at the time, and we were so stressed out we didn't care! LOL!!!!!!

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If it had been me he made the "monkey" comment to, I would have said, "Then how come you're not doing it??" Sounds to me like he's part monkey and part J***A$$.

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A story I've repeated many times here: the same docs in my area practice at hospital A and hospital B. At A, they talk down to the nurses, throw things, cause shift gosip and dysfunctions, etc. At hospital B, they do NOT.

Now some of the same nurses work at both hospitals and notice this. It is a reflection of the culture of the place and how the nurses deal with it, and the support they get when they try. When nurses become scapegoated cuz they pizzed off Dr Azzhole by standing up to him and get zero support from peers and managers.... then things are unlikely to change.

Nurses (obviously) moved from hospital A to hospital B if they weren't willing to put up with the abuse. And now...with those nurses who remained at A, its become a very hostile place to work cuz the dysfunction just proliferates.

Its an interesting phenom in my area.

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Specializes in ER/Trauma.

A "monkey" eh? :angryfire

Let's be realistic, going through channels is the best choice, but sometimes I would just love to get the child doc in a locker room alone for a minute or two.
'Nuff said!
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Specializes in ER/Trauma.
Wow..I find this to be so common with cardiologists and urologists, what do they teach them in school??? Arrogance 305????

I have actually had a intern tell me this once, and I just laughed, scratched my head and proceeded to monkey walk out the door (I wasn't known at that hospital for being a nice quiet nurse...LOL!).

Now this was noc shift and near Christmas...and we had quite a humor level!!! And we loved a good challenge to diss an intern in a way no one would ever forget...and I guess this guy had done this many times! So when I told the other nurses and we got together, had one nurse go down to the cafeteria and get as many banana's as she could..then we put them into the Docs lobby (in a lovely basket we got from some Docs at Christmas full of lovely food) with a note to him that we were donating our paychecks to him so he could have cranial-rectal surgery! Oh it was hillarious!!!!!!!!! Docs even cracked up and said "we told you not to mess with the nurses! They will get ya and get ya good!".

Every doc in that place saw those banana's...so this poor little ignorant intern was dubbed Chimpo for the rest of his internship, and yes..even over the speakers "Dr. Chimpo...line 384...". LOL!!!!! We even sent him a sock monkey vodoo doll for Christmas with pins glued in certain spots!

Thank goodness I guess we weren't the only department with probelms in regards to him...or we may have gotten in a bit of trouble for not being very professional...either that or that place needed some humor so badly that the entire hospital..cooks, receptionists, janitorial, everyone jumped in on this one!!!!!!

Ohhhhh memories!!!!!!! Good times Good times!!!!!! About my only funny one working there, but it was a doozie!!!!

Don't do this unless you know you won't get in trouble..LOL! But it was too funny not to at the time, and we were so stressed out we didn't care! LOL!!!!!!

:roll :roll You are full fo good stories Triage! :lol2:
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Specializes in oncology, surgical stepdown, ACLS & OCN.
Wow..I find this to be so common with cardiologists and urologists, what do they teach them in school??? Arrogance 305????

I have actually had a intern tell me this once, and I just laughed, scratched my head and proceeded to monkey walk out the door (I wasn't known at that hospital for being a nice quiet nurse...LOL!).

Now this was noc shift and near Christmas...and we had quite a humor level!!! And we loved a good challenge to diss an intern in a way no one would ever forget...and I guess this guy had done this many times! So when I told the other nurses and we got together, had one nurse go down to the cafeteria and get as many banana's as she could..then we put them into the Docs lobby (in a lovely basket we got from some Docs at Christmas full of lovely food) with a note to him that we were donating our paychecks to him so he could have cranial-rectal surgery! Oh it was hillarious!!!!!!!!! Docs even cracked up and said "we told you not to mess with the nurses! They will get ya and get ya good!".

Every doc in that place saw those banana's...so this poor little ignorant intern was dubbed Chimpo for the rest of his internship, and yes..even over the speakers "Dr. Chimpo...line 384...". LOL!!!!! We even sent him a sock monkey vodoo doll for Christmas with pins glued in certain spots!

Thank goodness I guess we weren't the only department with probelms in regards to him...or we may have gotten in a bit of trouble for not being very professional...either that or that place needed some humor so badly that the entire hospital..cooks, receptionists, janitorial, everyone jumped in on this one!!!!!!

Ohhhhh memories!!!!!!! Good times Good times!!!!!! About my only funny one working there, but it was a doozie!!!!

Don't do this unless you know you won't get in trouble..LOL! But it was too funny not to at the time, and we were so stressed out we didn't care! LOL!!!!!!

Thanks for your reply, and by the way that banana stunt must have been great, would love to have been a little fly on the wall for that one!

I think doc's need to be reminded every now and then that we save their

a-- not kiss it. The next time you hear of doctor's who refer to nurses as monkeys, remind them that hospitals would be non-existent w/o NURSES!

I never heard this analogy until I saw it on this website, and

believe me when I tell you, it made me furious.

scooterRN52

:angryfire

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