Questioning American Politics?

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Did our continental plates shift? Did we just decide to become a country that establishes a selected monarchy on the will of a few? What happened to voting? What happened to our elected officials? Do they blindly follow the party? Do political parties not hold elections anymore? These questions have unfolded since President Joe Biden stepped down from the democratic election. It's up to us, the concerned American citizens, to question and demand answers about this shift in our political landscape. 
When did America become a monarchy? The " hierarchy" in the democratic party forced a democratically elected President who won the primary to step down from office. The time to decide was a year ago. However, they did nothing, and we, the people, are in a situation that we never asked. I am demanding answers. To some of these valid questions?

 

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https://wisconsinexaminer.com/briefs/wisconsin-gop-group-launches-pro-harris-campaign-with-open-letter/
 

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Two dozen Wisconsin Republicans, including former lawmakers, other former elected officials and a GOP sitting district attorney, have signed an open letter declaring their support for Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris in her campaign for president and condemning the Republican nominee former President Donald Trump.

Non-democrats voting for Harris. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Correct.  Voting for Trump doesn't make you a Nazi, it simply makes you a person willing to vote for the candidate of white supremacists and neo-Nazis.  It's your own words and defenses of Trump's words which make you appear as a cult member.  

Or, by your standard, you must voting for Trump because you are a white nationalist, Nazi sympathizer as well as being a republican and cult member. 

I mean, it's not really an insult to be considered a Democrat, it's just not an accurate reflection.  Lots of people just don't think that republicans have forwarded a reasonable presidential candidate since 2016 and there's really only two choices. I'm one of those people.  

If you were truly an "independent " you would vote "independent ". Why is it hard for you to align yourself with the democrat party? 

Interesting. What is that I say or do that you feel makes me a "cult member"? 

I'm so sure you voted for Bush. 

I could easily say you vote democrat. The party of communism and socialist under the guise of "democracy". You believe in open borders and equitable distribution of wealth without personal merit or work.  

On that note, didn't P Diddy run an aggressive campaign for the Democrat party? "Vote or die" I believe was the slogan and endorsed democrats?

Using your logic, you by your vote, for the party of rampant "freak offs" requiring large amounts of  lubricant and IV infusions used in his sex trafficking and sexual assults? 

However I do not participate in guilt by association fallacy. Or identity politics. Which is why I vote Republican.  

Feel free to speculate my victim status or "cult member" . Just remember that just because you think is is so, doesn't make it fact. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Correct.  Voting for Trump doesn't make you a Nazi, it simply makes you a person willing to vote for the candidate of white supremacists and neo-Nazis.  It's your own words and defenses of Trump's words which make you appear as a cult member.  

Or, by your standard, you must voting for Trump because you are a white nationalist, Nazi sympathizer as well as being a republican and cult member. 

I mean, it's not really an insult to be considered a Democrat, it's just not an accurate reflection.  Lots of people just don't think that republicans have forwarded a reasonable presidential candidate since 2016 and there's really only two choices. I'm one of those people.  

If you were truly an "independent " you would vote "independent ". Why is it hard for you to align yourself with the democrat party? 

Interesting. What is that I say or do that you feel makes me a "cult member"? 

I'm so sure you voted for Bush. 

I could easily say you vote democrat. The party of communism and socialist under the guise of "democracy". You believe in open borders and equitable distribution of wealth without personal merit or work.  

On that note, didn't P Diddy run an aggressive campaign for the Democrat party? "Vote or die" I believe was the slogan and endorsed democrats?

Using your logic, you by your vote, for the party of rampant "freak offs" requiring large amounts of  lubricant and IV infusions used in his sex trafficking and sexual assults? 

However I do not participate in guilt by association fallacy. Or identity politics. Which is why I vote Republican.  

Feel free to speculate my victim status or "cult member" . Just remember that just because you think is is so, doesn't make it fact. 

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NRSKarenRN said:

State taxes for goods: food, clothing, household items, appliances, vehicles etc, are paid at time of purchase by all at time of consumption.  

Then there's local property taxes paid out of the rents paid by migrants regardless of documentation. Not inconsequential considering skyrocketing rents these days.

Speaking of the depredations of migrants, I came across an interesting take while exploring the zeitgeist. Some loon recently blamed migrants for homelessness because they are supposedly buying up all the houses. Sure ... working citizens can't afford $350,000 houses because migrants earning minimum wage are buying up all  the $350,000 houses.

But the most interesting take of all is the indigenous land back movement. Especially when some dufus goes on and on about sending migrants back where they came from. Every once in a while I read about some white supremacist calling for a white homeland. Idjit - we already have one. It's called Europe.

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Crusades said:

If you were truly an "independent " you would vote "independent ". Why is it hard for you to align yourself with the democrat party? 

Interesting. What is that I say or do that you feel makes me a "cult member"? 

I'm so sure you voted for Bush. 

I could easily say you vote democrat. The party of communism and socialist under the guise of "democracy". You believe in open borders and equitable distribution of wealth without personal merit or work.  

On that note, didn't P Diddy run an aggressive campaign for the Democrat party? "Vote or die" I believe was the slogan and endorsed democrats?

Using your logic, you by your vote, for the party of rampant "freak offs" requiring large amounts of  lubricant and IV infusions used in his sex trafficking and sexual assults? 

However I do not participate in guilt by association fallacy. Or identity politics. Which is why I vote Republican.  

Feel free to speculate my victim status or "cult member" . Just remember that just because you think is is so, doesn't make it fact. 

You have no idea what my voting history includes but it's interesting that you feel empowered to speculate about me while you invite me to speculate about you rather than simply examine your own words and messaging. 

No thank you.  

The reality is that Trump engaged in crazy lies and multiple crimes in an attempt to retain lost power.  He attempted to overturn election results. The only reason to vote for Trump is identity politics.  He is a mentally ill criminal who has no fealty to our republic.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

You have no idea what my voting history includes but it's interesting that you feel empowered to speculate about me while you invite me to speculate about you rather than simply examine your own words and messaging. 

No thank you.  

The reality is that Trump engaged in crazy lies and multiple crimes in an attempt to retain lost power.  He attempted to overturn election results. The only reason to vote for Trump is identity politics.  He is a mentally ill criminal who has no fealty to our republic.  

Nah. If I vote for the party of  "supremist/Nazis" then you vote for the party of sex trafficking P Diddlers. 

Correct. Voting for Harris doesn't make you a sex trafficker it simply makes you a person willing to vote for the candidate of sex traffickers.  Diddy, Harvey Weinstien........... 

Or, by your standard, you must voting for Harris because you are a sex traficking /communist sympathizer as well as being a democrat and "independent ". 



Ya know? The guild by association fallacy you love to exploit? 

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Crusades said:

Nah. If I vote for the party of  "supremist/Nazis" then you vote for the party of sex trafficking P Diddlers. 

Correct. Voting for Harris doesn't make you a sex trafficker it simply makes you a person willing to vote for the candidate of sex traffickers.  Diddy, Harvey Weinstien........... 

Or, by your standard, you must voting for Harris because you are a sex traficking /communist sympathizer as well as being a democrat and "independent ". 



Ya know? The guild by association fallacy you love to exploit? 

Again with the false equivalence. 

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Crusades said:

Nah. If I vote for the party of  "supremist/Nazis" then you vote for the party of sex trafficking P Diddlers. 

Correct. Voting for Harris doesn't make you a sex trafficker it simply makes you a person willing to vote for the candidate of sex traffickers.  Diddy, Harvey Weinstien........... 

Or, by your standard, you must voting for Harris because you are a sex traficking /communist sympathizer as well as being a democrat and "independent ". 



Ya know? The guild by association fallacy you love to exploit? 

You seem triggered.  

There's no good reason to vote for Trump but there's many very good reasons to vote against him.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

You seem triggered.  

There's no good reason to vote for Trump but there's many very good reasons to vote against him.  

Any person would be at least disturbed by sex trafficking.  Are you triggered? 

Says the person who is comfortable voting for the party a sex trafficking degenerate who ran a side campaign for democrats.  

Guilt by association fallacy is silly isn't it? 

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Crusades said:

Any person would be at least disturbed by sex trafficking.  Are you triggered? 

Says the person who is comfortable voting for the party a sex trafficking degenerate who ran a side campaign for democrats.  

Guilt by association fallacy is silly isn't it? 

Kamala Harris is involved in sex trafficking? Your guy raped a woman and then defamed her over and over.  

Do you really want to examine the unindicted side crimes of Trump and his merry band of charlatans and criminal?  Did you forget that Trump was good friends with Epstein and his girlfriend groomer and that Trump's name is all over the Epstein flight logs?  You can extrapolate and spin some nonsense but it doesn't change that you will vote for a man who is ethically and morally unfit for office.  

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Crusades said:

Welcome to the donkey den.

I am 1 of 2 (as far as I know) non democrats on this forum. 

Prepare to be called a "Nazi" / "cult victim". 

Please do not get bullied into not providing your opinion. This forum, although inconsequential, is a reflection of the dominate left trying to suppress anything that goes against their narrative that we see in media etc..... 

There will be more of this as buyers remorse for Harris and the realization of what a dumpster fire her campaign is will set in.  They have noting else to do.  

She may still have a chance as the hatred of Trump can't be underestimated.   But, that's all they have.

I'm pretty much sitting back and enjoying the show.

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Beerman said:

There will be more of this as buyers remorse for Harris and the realization of what a dumpster fire her campaign is will set in.  They have noting else to do.  

She may still have a chance as the hatred of Trump can't be underestimated.   But, that's all they have.

I'm pretty much sitting back and enjoying the show.

Oh there's so much more that just hatred to be communicated about Trump. 

First; there's the mental illness and Trump's complete absence of empathy or compassion with clearly diminished capacity for clear communication. Then there's the history of unprecedented corruption and unwillingness to follow convention or laws.  Trump's attempts to retain lost power by lying about an election and his incompetent handling of a pandemic are fun to talk about with voters.  Now we can talk about Trump having secret conversations with Putin and how Trump shipped covid tests to his buddy Vlad on the down low. 

There's so, so much to talk to people about besides "hate" when they might be considering voting for the rapist, felon and fraud who exploded our debt and deficit last time he was in office. 

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