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In a discussion I had with my brother in law today (who is a future nurse!), I learned he is uncomfortable with public breastfeeding unless there is a blanket involved. I know some folks wouldn't even like it with a blanket! I strongly feel that, as nurses, we should be doing what we can to support and advocate for breastfeeding and shed it in a positive light. I couldn't believe that a health care professional would feel differently. Obviously, this is coming from the United States (sigh).

I'm someone that usually works to make people feel comfortable in situations, but if my baby needs to be fed and some guy doesn't like it, well then he doesn't have to look! My baby comes first. That's how I feel about it. Guys will say that we shouldn't expose our breasts because they are too sexual, then agree that breastfeeding isn't sexual, but still say that we should hide it.....I cannot follow the circular reasoning.

I want to raise sons who know that breasts, as sexually appealing as they may be to them when they are older, are made to feed babies. That a uterus carries babies and lady partss birth them. I believe that this gives men a truer, deeper respect for women and for all human beings ... our bodies are not just sex objects! I saw a funny T-shirt that said -- Breasts: Not just for selling cars anymore!

I wanted to see what other nurses thought about this, on a personal level as well as a public health level.

Secondly, the women in the photo actually are physically and aesthetically appealing. Again, not all BF mothers are and I'd rather not see their breasts!!

My mouth is hanging open, :eek: I can't believe you just said this! So if I'm cute and perky then you wouldn't mind if I nursed my child in front of you but if I'm a bit saggy and overweight you'd rather I hide so as not to offend you? Who's offending whom here?

Specializes in LDRP; Education.

OK, I'm sorry, but this post makes no sense at all. I don't know about you, but where I live (and have ever lived, and every time I turn on the TV), I can fully well expect to see some scantily clad woman w/her boobs hanging out. Or partially, anyway.

Absolutely. However, are we talking TV or real life here? I thought the issue was BFing women IN PUBLIC, not on TV. So I'm sorry to me, your post makes absolutely no sense.

Plus your comment that the models wearing skimpy bikinis are attractive so that makes it OK, but BF'ing moms aren't attractive so then it's a problem.....? Come on, I think it's obvious, you yourself simply have a problem w/women bf'ing in public. So what? Just fess up, bottom line is, it's your hang up, and your gonna have to deal w/it.

Okay, when I posted I was in a "mood" a playful one at that. It's obvious that my comment was taken waaaaaayyyyyyyy out of proportion when it was meant to be tongue in cheek. No different than this from 12 pages or so back from someone OTHER than me:

I don't think overweight men should wear tight Speedos at the beach. Do I get to tell them to change into boxer type trunks?

So for those I offended, I apologize.

As far as your conclusion that I have a problem with BFing in public, again, that makes absolutely no sense when I have BF in public myself. My "hang up" as you described, is not BFing per se but women who are INdiscreet. Period. If that's my hang up, then so be it. I'll live with it. But guess what? I can support BFing and do it myself but be discreet about it. Those two concepts CAN coexist.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Specializes in Public Health, DEI.
Absolutely. However, are we talking TV or real life here? I thought the issue was BFing women IN PUBLIC, not on TV. So I'm sorry to me, your post makes absolutely no sense.

Okay, when I posted I was in a "mood" a playful one at that. It's obvious that my comment was taken waaaaaayyyyyyyy out of proportion when it was meant to be tongue in cheek. No different than this from 12 pages or so back from someone OTHER than me:

So for those I offended, I apologize.

As far as your conclusion that I have a problem with BFing in public, again, that makes absolutely no sense when I have BF in public myself. My "hang up" as you described, is not BFing per se but women who are INdiscreet. Period. If that's my hang up, then so be it. I'll live with it. But guess what? I can support BFing and do it myself but be discreet about it. Those two concepts CAN coexist.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

That Speedo comment was made by me, and I really don't see the wisdom in quoting it when you're trying to explain a tongue in cheek remark you made. My remark wasn't tongue in cheek at all. I really think it's disgusting to look at overweight men who have themselves crammed into a swimsuit that looks like it's 2 sizes too small. I also don't think for one second that I should be able to tell these men to be more discreet and wear a suit that looks better on their body type. (And yes, I also think it's ridiculous when overweight women wear bikinis or walk around with the midriff showing. Just...yuck) The point's the same, these things are my problem, not their's. Just a couple of the many things that outrage my sensibilities on a daily basis.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

I think the big difference in that scenario and the OT is that BF serves a purpose of feeding children. Some speedo-wearing dude is not quite as comparable.

Specializes in Case Mgmt; Mat/Child, Critical Care.

Well, Q., I was talking about real life, as well as TV (although every time I turn on the "boob tube"....get it:rotfl: ,LOL, anymore, it seems like I'm seeing more and more nudity). Seriously, in real life, you see people scantily dressed, and yeah, sometimes it is offensive, to me, but what the heck, I just thank the Lord it's not me dressed that way (cause to tell you the truth, they often don't look that great:rolleyes: ).

I figured you were commenting partly in humor, so it's all good....I just don't see the big deal w/bf'ing, period, public or not. I really don't think I've ever seen anyone not being discreet, but even if I did, well, to each their own, kwim?

Specializes in Public Health, DEI.
I think the big difference in that scenario and the OT is that BF serves a purpose of feeding children. Some speedo-wearing dude is not quite as comparable.

It isn't exactly meant to be a comparison, just a parallel as to the fact that all of us have something that we're not comfortable seeing. I once had a patient complain that a teenager in the waiting room had "grotesque" acne. Yeah, why don't I go out there and tell him to leave. You know, they're all just basically too bad for us, when it comes right down to it. It is very unreasonable to actually believe that because you (in general, not you specifically) don't want to see something, it should just disappear.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Health/story?id=1378087

So we're not the only ones that argue about this topic...

Specializes in LDRP; Education.

From the article:

Laws may be in place to protect the rights of those mothers, and it's not as if there is an anti-breast-feeding lobby. But moms will tell you the practice is still not fully accepted by the general public, and self-proclaimed "lactivists" are taking their fight to the streets and the Internet to protest breast-feeding restrictions and negative attitudes.

This is where I think a line may exist. Laws ARE in place ~ in essence, breastfeeding mothers are protected from being forcibly removed from a public place, etc. The law is clearly on their side. However, individual public perception is something that may not EVER change, and I think taking on an activist (lactivist) attitude might actually prove to be a disservice to everyone. People who have problems with BFing in public don't need it shoved down their throat when clearly, the public spoke and laws were enacted to protect BFing women. I think by simply going about your business and nursing when needed, without trying to further an activist agenda is the best way to get the message across that you simply want to breastfeed, not push your ideas onto someone else.

Breastfeeding should be about respecting someone's choice to do so, and about feeding and bonding with your baby. If I happen to think breastfeeding is disgusting and choose to bottle feed, I shouldn't have lactivists at my door or workplace trying to force my acceptance. If the law wasn't on their side, I could see the point. But because it is, I DON'T see the point. You aren't going to change everyone's opinion. The best way for society to accept breastfeeding openly in public is just to do so discreetly and like a woman - not like a politician with an agenda.

Specializes in LTC/Skilled Care/Rehab.

I just want to know where are these women with both breasts hanging out are. I have only seen women bfing in public a few times and everytime they were covered up (usually by the baby's head). And for anyone who thinks women should put a blanket over a baby's head while bfing....have you ever tried that? :rolleyes: I did that the first couple of times I bf my son in public, but he wouldn't put up with it after he got older. I wouldn't want to eat under a blanket either. Luckily I have never had anyone make a negative comment about me bfing in pubic. We should support women bfing...not make them feel ashamed of it.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Ok, about the "nurse-in". BF in public is one thing, but i REALLY have a problem when someone is BF as a demonstration (refering to the ABC newslink) and not out of nutrition for their child

I don't get the lady parts analogy at all. We are talking about the necessity of exposing a bit of the breast for a specific reason, that being to nourish a child. What, exactly, essential function would we be fulfilling if we were to expose our entire lady parts by pulling off our underwear?

I haven't read the last three pages of this thread - BUT I just had to respond to this and heartily agree. What the heck does a lady parts have to do with breastfeeding? That analogy does not make a bit of sense.

steph

There was an organized public breastfeeding event in our county a few years ago to specifically combat some of the attitudes found on this thread that public breastfeeding is disgusting and wrong.

Some of my good friends attended. People who discreetly breastfed their infants in public but just got sincerely tired of being treated like second class citizens.

The Hooters comments and the photos are excellent examples of a the double standard in America. I told this story on another b/fing thread a few years ago so forgive me for repeating, those who have heard it.

This was 25 years ago - I was at my boyfriend's house and his sister had a friend come by to visit who had recently had a baby. The baby almost immediately became fussy and was hungry and instead of being comfortable enough to b/f the baby in someone's home, she left. I questioned why she had to leave and my bf's father said "I don't want my boys to see someone breastfeed a baby!". He had 3 sons, 19, 17 and 14. What was so funny is that a few minutes laters, the Dallas Cowboy football game came on and the cheerleaders were being shown and dad yelled for his sons to come and watch specifically the cheerleaders. I, being a smart a$$ said "oh, so it is ok to look at cheerleaders bouncing around on tv but it isn't ok to be in the same room with a woman breastfeeding an infant?". He just glared at me.

It is simply a food delivery system. It has nothing to do with urination or lady partss or sex.

steph

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