President Biden thread

Honeymoon is over

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/564594-biden-receives-lowest-job-approval-rating-since-taking-office

5 hours ago, Tweety said:

   

Honeymoon is over

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/564594-biden-receives-lowest-job-approval-rating-since-taking-office

There was never a honeymoon inside the cult of personality that now represents the GOP voting base.  That indoctrination is fueled by propaganda that bleeds into all media...like the lie that there was fraud in the election or that the pandemic was contrived...serious journalists talk about the nonsense and even that talk elevates the nonsense.  This country is in serious trouble because too many people have no time or motivation to wade through the wide and deep gas lighting that supports republican politics today. 

5 hours ago, Tweety said:

   

Honeymoon is over

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/564594-biden-receives-lowest-job-approval-rating-since-taking-office

Not really.  Trump's average approval rating was only 41%.  And remember that some of these people interviewed were anti-vaxxers who are worried about the way Biden is handling the virus when they are the cause of the continuing effects of the pandemic?  Duh.  Biden never had a chance to have a honeymoon.  It's as if he came into office during WW II or Vietnam.  The times they were a'changin' and a lot of people just can't keep up with evolution.  If I were younger, I would probably care a lot more but this is just a re-run of a president who got elected in terrible times.  

8 hours ago, subee said:

Not really.  Trump's average approval rating was only 41%.  And remember that some of these people interviewed were anti-vaxxers who are worried about the way Biden is handling the virus when they are the cause of the continuing effects of the pandemic?  Duh.  Biden never had a chance to have a honeymoon.  It's as if he came into office during WW II or Vietnam.  The times they were a'changin' and a lot of people just can't keep up with evolution.  If I were younger, I would probably care a lot more but this is just a re-run of a president who got elected in terrible times.  

That would mean that anti-vaxxers gave a positive approval rating prior to now and now disapprove.  Doubtful as my opinion would be covid anti-vaxxers voted for Trump and disapproved of Biden from the get go.  

Trump is not relevant but it is not unusual for approval ratings to drop.  Republicans have always and will always disapprove so there's 50% disapproval right there.  The far left wing is probably dropping some of their initial approval due to his lack of aggression with their agenda, and are middle of the road people with continued poor vaccination rates and the border issue don't necessarily approve.  

Then there's inflation.  People are worried about this and blaming him.  Fox News and conservative media are certainly making a big deal out of it since jobs and the economy are going well they have to have something.  But everyday people are worried about this as well.

13 hours ago, Tweety said:

That would mean that anti-vaxxers gave a positive approval rating prior to now and now disapprove.  Doubtful as my opinion would be covid anti-vaxxers voted for Trump and disapproved of Biden from the get go.  

Trump is not relevant but it is not unusual for approval ratings to drop.  Republicans have always and will always disapprove so there's 50% disapproval right there.  The far left wing is probably dropping some of their initial approval due to his lack of aggression with their agenda, and are middle of the road people with continued poor vaccination rates and the border issue don't necessarily approve.  

Then there's inflation.  People are worried about this and blaming him.  Fox News and conservative media are certainly making a big deal out of it since jobs and the economy are going well they have to have something.  But everyday people are worried about this as well.

You would be correct if only Democrats were polled, but the article didn't say that.  Maybe I made a wrong assumption.

10 hours ago, subee said:

You would be correct if only Democrats were polled, but the article didn't say that.  Maybe I made a wrong assumption.

No the article mentions republicans and breaks it down.  I mentioned republicans in my post as well, so I'm not understanding this. 

I don't think antivaxers had a major impact in his falling numbers since more than likely they didn't approve of him from the get go.  In my opinion.

9 hours ago, Beerman said:

The article states that among independents,  Biden's approval is 48%.

I read several articles that the first six months Biden gained a lot of ground with Independents.  

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-approval-rating-soaring-independents-1610378

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-buoyed-independents-100-days-n1265336

But also as that support slips or might slip it could be important.

https://www.rollcall.com/2021/07/14/election-day-2022-will-be-independents-day/

I think this is true.  Republicans that were so turned off by Trump that they voted for Biden certainly aren't going to vote Democrat in the mid-term and Independents who can swing either way might be a crucial element to both parties.  I don't think they will be swayed by the sky is falling tactic that America is being destroyed because Biden and extremist hate America, etc.  They don't like partisan politics, they are younger (I.e. likely to have some student debt) and are more issue oriented and lean towards LGBT rights and abortions, but also support liberties such as gun ownership.  

I was democrat-leaning registered Independent most of my adult life until I decided I wanted to vote in primaries a couple of elections ago and Florida locks out registered Independents from primaries.

49 minutes ago, Beerman said:

 

Are we supposed to be shocked by the partisan analysis of Fox political commentators? Those words and attitudes certainly echo in the conservative cable and social media platforms...where Trump supporters apparently get their information. 

Lawlessness due to the Democrats?  Due to Biden? Bret Hume talks of senility?  He sounds like he is being recorded on slow speed.  Doesn't make any difference what Fox says because they just want to sell gold and mini-me viagra on their shows.  I will rely on the Democrats until Ran Paul, MTG, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan and all the crazy people are out of the party?  I don't have to agree with all of Biden's agenda -  infact I am very opposed to part of this infrastructure bill but Dems aren't the mean, rude,  cover-upper of child sexual abusers and low IQ types represented by the Republican party today.  They don't have all the answers but they have more than the Republicans are offering.

23 hours ago, Beerman said:

 

He brought up some of the same points I did that the honeymoon phase is over, the people have concerns over inflation, etc.  I watched with interest the moment which Hume says is proof of his senility that we should be concerned that he lost his train of thought.  I know he stammered, and that he stutters, but he seemed to pull it together.  Definitely live interviews and spontaneous questions are a weak point for him.   That's disappointing because a president should be more fast thinking.  But I can't think of one President that didn't stammer through live interviews at one time or another. Bush was the best.  I guess time will tell.