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Wow.  No one has started such a thread yet?

After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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21 minutes ago, Beerman said:

You are correct.  That is the point others are trying to make.   Same old liberal strategy of discredit and disparage while ignoring the actual issue.

 

No, disparaging and ignoring actual issues while making up others are the most hypocritical points made by every Trump supporter and political apologist for Trump.  The fact that you don't even see it is the point I am making. 

I think all the hypocritical white supremacy propaganda a Trump supporter eats on a daily basis makes you guys blind to your own hypocrisy because Trump is everything you think you hate about about people who you think want to destroy this country. 

Trump is evil, Trump is a white supremacists, Trump is anti-American and Anti-democratic!  Trump is also a LOSER, illiterate, DEMENTED, and no longer president! That is the actual issue that you and every Trump supporter wants to deflect from. 

By the way, pointing out the truth is not deflection and neither is choosing not to go down your white supremacist propagandist rabbit holes!  That is what you have hitched your bandwagon to!  My bandwagon is to democracies here and around the world, our United States Constitution, and our President of the United States, Joe Biden!    

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

You are correct.  That is the point others are trying to make.   Same old liberal strategy of discredit and disparage while ignoring the actual issue.

Anyone with any objective observation ability can compare Biden of now vs the past and easily conclude he is declining.  Are you against him taking the same cognitive test that Trump took?  If so, why?

Psaki admitted they advise him not to take questions when he is out in public.  Why is that, in your opinion?  Do you agree he shouldn't take questions?

 

There is no actual issue with Biden's cognitive function.  Your persistence in sharing propaganda which muses on such nonsense is a reflection on you. 

Again, your complete inability to accurately discern Trump's obvious speech abnormalities and word salad leaves zero room for you to suddenly now provide expert level "concern" about Biden...when everyone knows that cognitive decline was Trump's go to projection for Biden pre election.  Why would Biden take a cognitive test simply because his predecessor was suffering obvious mental decline and was tested? Is that how and why we order cognitive tests in this country...because conservatives Trump supporters believe propaganda about other politicians? Remember how proud Trump was that he passed that cognitive assessment? Did that seem normal?

Yeah.  Why should the president of the USA take random questions from reporters at unplanned intervals? Biden has a busy schedule and a competent communications team that can handle his messaging.  He's working now, not campaigning.  We aren't used to seeing that after 4 years of grifting and campaigning instead of working.  

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1 hour ago, SummerGarden said:

No, disparaging and ignoring actual issues while making up others are the most hypocritical points made by every Trump supporter and political apologist for Trump.  The fact that you don't even see it is the point I am making. 

I think all the hypocritical white supremacy propaganda a Trump supporter eats on a daily basis makes you guys blind to your own hypocrisy because Trump is everything you think you hate about about people who you think want to destroy this country. 

Trump is evil, Trump is a white supremacists, Trump is anti-American and Anti-democratic!  Trump is also a LOSER, illiterate, DEMENTED, and no longer president! That is the actual issue that you and every Trump supporter wants to deflect from. 

By the way, pointing out the truth is not deflection and neither is choosing not to go down your white supremacist propagandist rabbit holes!  That is what you have hitched your bandwagon to!  My bandwagon is to democracies here and around the world, our United States Constitution, and our President of the United States, Joe Biden!    

LOL.  Still, you are unable to answer the questions I put out there.  It's quite remarkable. really, how it seems to be impossible to have a discussion about Biden without Trump and the Trump voter being disparaged. 

Are you against Biden taking the same cognitive test that Trump took?  If so, why?

Psaki admitted they advise him not to take questions when he is out in public.  Why is that, in your opinion?  Do you agree he shouldn't take questions?

 

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Beerman said:

LOL.  Still, you are unable to answer the questions I put out there.  It's quite remarkable. really, how it seems to be impossible to have a discussion about Biden without Trump and the Trump voter being disparaged. 

Are you against Biden taking the same cognitive test that Trump took?  If so, why?

Psaki admitted they advise him not to take questions when he is out in public.  Why is that, in your opinion?  Do you agree he shouldn't take questions?

 

 

 

 

The question is stupid and based in partisan propaganda, apparently you can't discern that. 

The average Trump voter has exactly zero credibility to question Biden's cognitive status after ignoring Trump's obvious cognitive struggles, apparently you can't comprehend that. 

Why should Biden's cognition be tested simply because Trump supporters believe nonsense? That Trump supporters believe propaganda is not evidence that Biden's cognition is troubled.  Maybe that doesn't make sense to you. 

Biden has a press secretary and communications staff, he is busy. 

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6 hours ago, Beerman said:

You are correct.  That is the point others are trying to make.   Same old liberal strategy of discredit and disparage while ignoring the actual issue.

Anyone with any objective observation ability can compare Biden of now vs the past and easily conclude he is declining.  Are you against him taking the same cognitive test that Trump took?  If so, why?

Psaki admitted they advise him not to take questions when he is out in public.  Why is that, in your opinion?  Do you agree he shouldn't take questions?

 

Why don't you ask Q which seems to be your main source.  Think...it's not illegal yet.  We all think differently in different stages of our lives....well, at least we are supposed to if we are autodidacts.  The older we get, the more time we've had to dive into depth.  Do you believe that elders are too stupid to govern?  Is that REALLY what you are trying to say?  We all get caught up with searching for the right word and that's because we have SO MUCH data in our heads!  It's not really a good thing to have an uncluttered mind. 

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On 6/19/2021 at 10:42 AM, Beerman said:

I'm not sure why you'd include Jackson with the others.

 

All of that doesnt have anything to do with the fact that Biden's cognitive abilities have obviously and continue to decline.

The biggest lies I can find anywhere regarding Trump's health are from Pelosi calling him "morbidly obese".

It's amusing how often Trump continues to get talked about here in the Biden thread.  TDS appears to a long-haul affliction.

I included Ronny Jackson with the others because he apparently still has a medical license, and I hold him to a higher standard.

I would say he is definitely a dirtbag, and probably a nut, just not as flamboyantly nutty as Greene and Gaetz. Here is why:

In addition to his lack of professional ethics (well-documented by others in this thread). it's his willingness to reject mainstream medical opinion, and his utterly slavish devotion to Donald Trump, to the point he apparently is willing to disregard a clear threat to his own life on January 6, mark a man who in my opinion is unfit to hold a medical license and unfit to hold public office.

On March 14, 2020 just as Trump was sitting back, doing nothing for fear of torpedoing his own reelection chances, you had "doctor Ronny" on Fox News, parroting the lie, just as the dying was ramping up. 

"I think we will look back on this and say we overreacted a little bit." 

On January 6, when many Trump devotees had a brief and apparently temporary moment of clarity, Jackson described a terror so intense he and his colleagues took off their ties to avoid being choked to death and planning makeshift weapons to defend themselves. Now, if Ronny Jackson wasn't the idiot who called them "tourists" his current attitude suggests he could have been.

I don't expect you to connect the dots, though. You decided to post about one of Brad Parscale and the Trump campaign's main strategic objectives (convince people Joe Biden is too cognitively impaired to be president), and have the nerve to accuse us of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" after we respond to your obvious instigation by posting about a news item dedicated to that very thing.

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The same test after which Trump declared himself a "stable Genius" even though it's not an intelligence test?   

The call for Biden to have cognitive screening was a campaign issue that somehow won't go away.  I'm torn between wanting him to give them the middle finger and him just doing it to shut them up.  I remember I was upset with Obama showing his birth certificate and would probably feel the same way if Biden gave into such nonsense and ageism.  

I think that if you splice together gaffes, stuttering and other things and put it up on Youtube and conservative press it might be understandable how "it's obvious he's on a mental decline" would be the impression. There was a documentary called "Unfit" that showed Trump's cognitive decline over time.  It's too easy to do.

Any physician taking care of an older person I would think would be on the lookout for cognitive decline and I'd like to think that if Biden truly had dementia someone would step in, and he would have the morality to do the right thing and appoint Harris President and step down.  I wonder if anti-Biden people have thought that through.  Harris would be President.

 

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21 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yeah.  Why should the president of the USA take random questions from reporters at unplanned intervals? Biden has a busy schedule and a competent communications team that can handle his messaging.  He's working now, not campaigning.  We aren't used to seeing that after 4 years of grifting and campaigning instead of working.  

So, his staff has to keep him.on task and tell him he doesn't have time to answer a question or a few?  He can't afford to take a extra few minutes to answer questions because he is so hard at work all the time? 

I would argue that answering questions and speaking to the American people is part of his busy job.  Other presidents,  including his predecessor,  seemed to handle it.

Yes, his communications team is handling his messaging.   The question is, who is deciding what his message is?  I'm not sure he has anything to do with it.

You obviously don't agree with what Trump accomplished, but he actually did get a lot done.  To say he didn't work just further undermines one's credibility. 

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11 hours ago, nursel56 said:

In addition to his lack of professional ethics (well-documented by others in this thread). 

Documented by others in this thread?  LOL.

11 hours ago, nursel56 said:

it's his willingness to reject mainstream medical opinion,

Such as?

11 hours ago, nursel56 said:

On March 14, 2020 just as Trump was sitting back, doing nothing for fear of torpedoing his own reelection chances, you had "doctor Ronny" on Fox News, parroting the lie, just as the dying was ramping up. 

What "lie" are you speaking of?  

11 hours ago, nursel56 said:

Now, if Ronny Jackson wasn't the idiot who called them "tourists" his current attitude suggests he could have been.

But, he didn't.   So....

If he is so bad, I wonder why Obama kept this guy around for his whole term?

 

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5 hours ago, Tweety said:

The same test after which Trump declared himself a "stable Genius" even though it's not an intelligence test?   

Yes, that is the one.  Trump's ridiculous statement doesn't change the facts.

5 hours ago, Tweety said:

The call for Biden to have cognitive screening was a campaign issue that somehow won't go away.  I'm torn between wanting him to give them the middle finger and him just doing it to shut them up.

He should.  Just as Trump did.

5 hours ago, Tweety said:

think that if you splice together gaffes, stuttering and other things and put it up on Youtube and conservative press it might be understandable how "it's obvious he's on a mental decline" would be the impression. There was a documentary called "Unfit" that showed Trump's cognitive decline over time.  It's too easy to do.

5 hours ago, Tweety said:

I remember I was upset with Obama showing his birth certificate and would probably feel the same way if Biden gave into such nonsense and ageism.  

Yes.  That is why I didn't include such a video. 

Just observing the types of gaffes he makes and his forgetfulness, it's different imo.  Not scientific of course, but I have on occasion seen that look in his eyes I recognize from dementia patients.

Questioning someone's mental capacity and possibility of dementia based on observations is not ageism.

5 hours ago, Tweety said:

Any physician taking care of an older person I would think would be on the lookout for cognitive decline and I'd like to think that if Biden truly had dementia someone would step in, and he would have the morality to do the right thing and appoint Harris President and step down.  I wonder if anti-Biden people have thought that through.  Harris would be President.

I would hope so to, but wouldn't count on it.  Of course, having him step down 6 months in for that reason,  when it was a campaign issue,  would probably do a lot of damage to the party.

I said it early on, I fully expect Harris to take over at some point. I'm not sure it would be any worse.  The Dems are already full steam ahead with their progressive agenda, and I don't believe Biden is pulling the strings anyway.

 Probably smart on their part, as I believe they're going to get shellacked in the midterms.

This isn't about being "anti-Biden".  I truly think he is declining rapidly.  

Thanks for your respectful response, staying away from deflecting from the issue to Trump and the Trump voter.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Beerman said:

So, his staff has to keep him.on task and tell him he doesn't have time to answer a question or a few?  He can't afford to take a extra few minutes to answer questions because he is so hard at work all the time? 

I would argue that answering questions and speaking to the American people is part of his busy job.  Other presidents,  including his predecessor,  seemed to handle it.

Yes, his communications team is handling his messaging.   The question is, who is deciding what his message is?  I'm not sure he has anything to do with it.

You obviously don't agree with what Trump accomplished, but he actually did get a lot done.  To say he didn't work just further undermines one's credibility. 

Bwahahaha

What an embarrassing extrapolation for you to publish. 

Are you seriously unaware of the many times that Biden had taken questions from the press? You sound unfamiliar with reality. No one has disputed that the POTUS  should take questions from the press, so argue away. 

Of course you question who authors the Biden administration messaging because your Trumper media tells you to. You are so worried about who is behind the messaging of the Biden administration that you don't seem to notice the Russian propaganda that rings through conservative politics.

Trump accomplished a great deal during his short and corrupt term as president.  Just look at the depth of damage done to our immigration processes, the DOJ, the department of education, HHS, HUD, EPA...etc.  There's a cost to putting grifters and opponents of those departments in charge.  Oh wait...you can't see any of that damage because you believe that Trump was the greatest president of your lifetime.  

What does someone who thinks Trump was a good president know about credibility? I mean the fellow incited a coup attempt against your government and has been lying to you about the 2020 election for more than a year now. 

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