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Wow. No one has started such a thread yet?
After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days, apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.
Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week, by the end of April.
toomuchbaloney said:I can't help it if it's insulting to be associated with a sexual predator and habitual liar. You get to a choose whoand what to support. You've chosen to support the corrupt guy. That reflects your values.
Yes, it actually is that cut and dried. Both candidates are old but only one of those old guys shares Hitler's sentiments about immigrants or tried to overthrow the last election. It's pretty straight forward.
It's a shame that you are bored by the uncomfortable truth about Trump but will still count yourself as a supporter. That says something about the values of Trump supporters.
We need the constant reminder that Trump is a dishonest threat to our republic because too many people will vote for the dishonest threat and republican politicians are trying to make partisan election fraud easier. That says something about the values and ethics of those Republicans.
Again, you're missing the point or simply deflecting. Or once again it looks like you just can't pass up the opportunity.
This small group is all aware of your opinion of a Trump voter, and some share the same opinion. It's unclear to me why repeat the same things over and over again to the same small group. What does it add to any discussion?
Of course, after 8 years I'm not expecting change. So, have at it.
Crusades said:Shush 🤫. That's the whole plan. They hope my insinuating that because some unsavory groups, may or may not support Trump then he is guilty of the sins of these groups.
So, if someone votes for Trump, then they are guilty of Trump's sins and anyone who votes for him sins.
It's really all they have left. A desperate attempt. Didn't work in 2016, kinda worked in 2020 and considering Trump's ratings, does seem to be working in 2024.
Guilty of Trump's sins? No. Most people would be incarcerated if they broke laws like Trump. No, people vote for Trump because they don't care about the crimes or the character flaws or the corruption and dishonesty. Lots of them like the way Trump expresses himself and those who don't like it are willing to bend any values or ethics to accept his unacceptable utterances.
Lots and lots of people won't associate themselves with Trump, that's why he lost the popular vote to Clinton in 2016 and to Biden in 2020.
You're still struggling with the logic.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-memorial-day-messages-1904984
Compare the two messages and align yourself with one or the other.
Beerman said:Again, you're missing the point or simply deflecting. Or once again it looks like you just can't pass up the opportunity.
This small group is all aware of your opinion of a Trump voter, and some share the same opinion. It's unclear to me why repeat the same things over and over again to the same small group. What does it add to any discussion?
Of course, after 8 years I'm not expecting change. So, have at it.
Nah. I didn't miss your point.
Lots of things remain unclear and mysterious for people who choose to support a dishonest liar and sexual predator who demonstrated terrible leadership and obvious incompetence the first time y'all elected him. Repetition can help people to process important information. Lots of people will ignore the evidence of Trump's threat until they can no longer ignore or deny it. That played out in early 20th century Germany too.
Tweety said:I'm a broken record sometimes too and I admit that sometimes I get to the same place where I repeat myself and scratch my head. But I hope I keep it relevant and not deflect too much.
This thread as of this writing has 234,466 views not bad for a small group of posters.
I think it's relevant. This is, arguably, the most important election of our lifetimes. Biden's opponent is a direct threat to our republic and his opponent's devoted voters have proven that a segment of them are radicalized and quite willing to make threats of and/or carry out violence as well as create all manner of chaos and confusion.
I will continue to repeat the very many reasons that Trump shouldn't be near power as long as there are Trump supporters here claiming that he's their choice. It's kind of boring for those of us who wouldn't vote for the moral reprobate under any circumstance, but the Trump narrative must be confronted at every opportunity. Truth and reality must be injected into that right wing delusion about who Trump is and what he represents.
toomuchbaloney said:Nah. I didn't miss your point.
Lots of things remain unclear and mysterious for people who choose to support a dishonest liar and sexual predator who demonstrated terrible leadership and obvious incompetence the first time y'all elected him. Repetition can help people to process important information. Lots of people will ignore the evidence of Trump's threat until they can no longer ignore or deny it. That played out in early 20th century Germany too.
Repetition is a method of propaganda. Also, it tends to be disregarded. Also, constantly insulting people for who they vote for isn't likely to make them change their minds. Ya know? Probably causes them to affirm their vote.
toomuchbaloney said:I think it's relevant. This is, arguably, the most important election of our lifetimes. Biden's opponent is a direct threat to our republic and his opponent's devoted voters have proven that a segment of them are radicalized and quite willing to make threats of and/or carry out violence as well as create all manner of chaos and confusion.
I will continue to repeat the very many reasons that Trump shouldn't be near power as long as there are Trump supporters here claiming that he's their choice. It's kind of boring for those of us who wouldn't vote for the moral reprobate under any circumstance, but the Trump narrative must be confronted at every opportunity. Truth and reality must be injected into that right wing delusion about who Trump is and what he represents.
I wonder if anyone will deny the election when Trump wins?
Tweety said:I'm a broken record sometimes too and I admit that sometimes I get to the same place where I repeat myself and scratch my head. But I hope I keep it relevant and not deflect too much.
This thread as of this writing has 234,466 views not bad for a small group of posters.
No. Tweety you are a respectful person that isn't shy to express your opinion. You do it without the cheap tactic of defaming anyone who doesn't vote for your guy. You express you feelings about Trump and are intelligent enough to know that we as free citizens are not guilty of any sin/crimes other than our own.
......still not voting Biden tho..... LOL
However you most certainly have the potential to sway some people.
You have allot more potential to change minds then some other baloney activist do.
Crusades said:Repetition is a method of propaganda. Also, it tends to be disregarded. Also, constantly insulting people for who they vote for isn't likely to make them change their minds. Ya know? Probably causes them to affirm their vote.
Sure... when the repeated parts are fabricated or misleading.
I'm sorry that you feel insulted by your association with Trump's many character flaws or obvious corruption. Feel free to double down on support of a liar who tried to overthrow your government. It's your vote and your choice.
Crusades said:I wonder if anyone will deny the election when Trump wins?
Why would you care? Denying election results is perfectly normal for Trump supporters. Or is this another double standard?
Crusades said:No. Tweety you are a respectful person that isn't shy to express your opinion. You do it without the cheap tactic of defaming anyone who doesn't vote for your guy. You express you feelings about Trump and are intelligent enough to know that we as free citizens are not guilty of any sin/crimes other than our own.
......still not voting Biden tho..... LOL
However you most certainly have the potential to sway some people.
You have allot more potential to change minds then some other baloney activist do.
It's funny that you believe that I'm trying to change your mind.
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I can't help it if it's insulting to be associated with a sexual predator and habitual liar. You get to a choose whoand what to support. You've chosen to support the corrupt guy. That reflects your values.
Yes, it actually is that cut and dried. Both candidates are old but only one of those old guys shares Hitler's sentiments about immigrants or tried to overthrow the last election. It's pretty straight forward.
It's a shame that you are bored by the uncomfortable truth about Trump but will still count yourself as a supporter. That says something about the values of Trump supporters.
We need the constant reminder that Trump is a dishonest threat to our republic because too many people will vote for the dishonest threat and republican politicians are trying to make partisan election fraud easier. That says something about the values and ethics of those Republicans.