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Wow.  No one has started such a thread yet?

After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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Acknowledging that extremists have a right to their views hardly seems divisive to me.

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3 minutes ago, macawake said:


 

I’m surprised by the result of that poll. Makes me wonder if all the people responding had actually listened to or read the entire speech?

I don’t think it was divisive at all. Identifying a threat to democracy is not divisive. It’s an obligation. Considering what’s happening in your country, I actually believe that speech was mandatory for any American President, whether Republican or Democrat. Any American who wants to defend his or her Republic and believes in the Constitution and the rule of law, ought to welcome that speech. 
 

Just in case someone hasn’t actually listened to the full speech but only heard their media of choice report on it, here it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/us/politics/biden-speech-transcript.html

 

Let’s see the evidence of all this facism he claims.  I suppose you actually believe right wingers were reallly going to kidnap Whitmer as well.

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So much noise to distract from the important stuff. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/white-house-says-bidens-thoughts-are-with-queen-elizabeth-her-family-2022-09-08/

The Queen has now died.  


Considering her age, I guess that it shouldn’t come as a shock. But I still think it’s a sad day. Not many people have the same job for seventy years. Not many people even work for that long. Impressive woman. She was actually the Queen when Winston Churchill was the Prime Minister. She ”been there” for so much of our modern history. 
 

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5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Yes, you were right.

As for independents:

"Among Independents, 62.4% found the speech to be dangerous rhetoric and 31.2% found it to be acceptable, the poll found."

https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/06/poll-majority-americans-bidens-speech-escalation-rhetoric-trafalgar-poll/

"dangerous rhetoric" sounds a bit dramatic ?

Yes just know hearing about the Queen.  Glad she made it to her 75th jubilee

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11 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

Let’s see the evidence of all this facism he claims.  I suppose you actually believe right wingers were reallly going to kidnap Whitmer as well.


That would appear to be the rational deduction… 
 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmi/pr/2022_0823_Fox_et_al

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot

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4 minutes ago, Tweety said:

"dangerous rhetoric" sounds a bit dramatic ?

Yes just know hearing about the Queen.  Glad she made it to her 75th jubilee

I’m curious … just how is one supposed to disagree with or challenge stinkin’ thinkin’?

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30 minutes ago, heron said:

Acknowledging that extremists have a right to their views hardly seems divisive to me.

That's a interesting spin. You should work for the WH.

I wonder if you're aware that in the days since the speech he has made some efforts to walk back some of his rhetoric?

34 minutes ago, macawake said:


 

I’m surprised by the result of that poll. Makes me wonder if all the people responding had actually listened to or read the entire speech?

I don’t think it was divisive at all. Identifying a threat to democracy is not divisive. It’s an obligation. Considering what’s happening in your country, I actually believe that speech was mandatory for any American President, whether Republican or Democrat. Any American who wants to defend his or her Republic and believes in the Constitution and the rule of law, ought to welcome that speech. 
 

Just in case someone hasn’t actually listened to the full speech but only heard their media of choice report on it, here it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/us/politics/biden-speech-transcript.html

 

If it's such a threat to democracy, why are Democrats spending money to help defeat opponents of Trump-backed candidates?

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1 minute ago, Beerman said:

I wonder if you're aware that in the days since the speech he has made some efforts to walk back some of his rhetoric?


Which parts of the speech has he tried to ”walk back”? Could you post a link to him doing that? Thanks,

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5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

 

If it's such a threat to democracy, why are Democrats spending money to help defeat opponents of Trump-backed candidates?


Is the phenomenon you just described a pattern? Something that’s happening in many instances across the country? In order for it to be used as a meaningful argument that Democrats in general don’t regard Trumpism/MAGAism as a threat, I assume you can point to a trend or pattern of this occurring. Or is this a single case somewhere? It would really help if you could provide some context if you want to have an honest discussion about this topic. A link perhaps? 

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5 minutes ago, macawake said:


Is the phenomenon you just described a pattern? Something that’s happening in many instances across the country? In order for it to be used as a meaningful argument that Democrats in general don’t regard Trumpism/MAGAism as a threat, I assume you can point to a trend or pattern of this occurring. Or is this a single case somewhere? It would really help if you could provide some context if you want to have an honest discussion about this topic. A link perhaps? 

Many instances of it.  This opinion piece points out some examples:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/06/biden-maga-speech-hypocrisy/

And, it even seems they are proud to be using it as a political strategy:

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/20/1106256047/why-democrats-are-paying-for-ads-supporting-republican-primary-candidates

 

 

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11 minutes ago, macawake said:


Is the phenomenon you just described a pattern? Something that’s happening in many instances across the country? In order for it to be used as a meaningful argument that Democrats in general don’t regard Trumpism/MAGAism as a threat, I assume you can point to a trend or pattern of this occurring. Or is this a single case somewhere? It would really help if you could provide some context if you want to have an honest discussion about this topic. A link perhaps? 

I’ve been hearing about it, too. Couldn’t say how pervasive it is. Seems to be a tactic to pack the Republican slate of candidates with the most extreme magaphiles - ie election deniers, theocrats, nazis, grifters and the like - in order to flip votes away from them to candidates who actually have a functioning intellect.

Seems very roger stone-ish to me. I disapprove. 

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1 hour ago, MaybeeRN said:

You have proof of any of that?  

 Not if the former guy’s handpicked judge has anything to do with it. 

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