President Biden thread

1 hour ago, Assistedl8ving said:

Well, it might be helpful to describe "etreem" within the context we are speaking. I do not have any individual citizens name. 

I believe extremist is the belief/feeling that a person through behavior  exhibits behavior void of any reason and or thought. Where facts are over looked, far fetched ideas are presented as facts even when such "facts" are not supported by data. Accompanied with a disregard for integrity. "Doesn't matter if it's true, say it and at least someone will believe it" type tactic. And not being able to see other opinions or accepting criticism and a doubling down on what they think is virtuous. Even if this makes them seem foolish in public. This is what I think a non violent extremist looks like. 

On the right Marjorie Taylor Greene,on the left AOC. And Trump to a point. 

A name for the example of Biden extremism (that you suggested balances the Trump extremism) isn't really necessary... if you could just point to a group or club or something, maybe an incident involving people wearing Biden shirts or hats or something. There must be some reason that you think that both sides are the same level of extreme. 

We should stick to traditional definitions and meanings. 

noun: extremist; plural noun: extremists: a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action.

I think that it's interesting (and ridiculous) that you consider MTG and AOC as comparatively equivalent extremists. Here's an example of how their behavior is not equivalent; I don't recall AOC ever standing up and heckling a president during the state of the union. One of them repeats conspiracy theories and thinks that the Parkland school shooting was staged.  The other one believes in a 70% top marginal tax rate and a movement to sustainable energy. 

What do you mean "Trump to a point"? 

Do you mean that he is the spearhead of extremism right now or that he's only extreme to a point and otherwise he's just middle of the road?

7 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

A name for the example of Biden extremism (that you suggested balances the Trump extremism) isn't really necessary... if you could just point to a group or club or something, maybe an incident involving people wearing Biden shirts or hats or something. There must be some reason that you think that both sides are the same level of extreme. 

We should stick to traditional definitions and meanings. 

noun: extremist; plural noun: extremists: a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action.

I think that it's interesting (and ridiculous) that you consider MTG and AOC as comparatively equivalent extremists. Here's an example of how their behavior is not equivalent; I don't recall AOC ever standing up and heckling a president during the state of the union. One of them repeats conspiracy theories and thinks that the Parkland school shooting was staged.  The other one believes in a 70% top marginal tax rate and a movement to sustainable energy. 

What do you mean "Trump to a point"? 

Do you mean that he is the spearhead of extremism right now or that he's only extreme to a point and otherwise he's just middle of the road?

Trump is more delusional than an extremist. Whatever he did or did not do at the capital Jan.6 was because of delusion and ego. 

I stand corrected. AOC and MTG are foolish and ridiculous. However they possess extremist beliefs. Complete with their inflamed exaggerated Tweets and public stunts. 

This is what I consider extremist, I know the dictionary definition. Not everyone has the same definition of words these days so I explained my definition. 

I know I brought it up but I'm really not wanting to debate the 2 foolish women. 

42 minutes ago, Assistedl8ving said:

Trump is more delusional than an extremist. Whatever he did or did not do at the capital Jan.6 was because of delusion and ego. 

I stand corrected. AOC and MTG are foolish and ridiculous. However they possess extremist beliefs. Complete with their inflamed exaggerated Tweets and public stunts. 

This is what I consider extremist, I know the dictionary definition. Not everyone has the same definition of words these days so I explained my definition. 

I know I brought it up but I'm really not wanting to debate the 2 foolish women. 

It's difficult to have clear communication when we arbitrarily alter word meanings.

It's not necessary to dismiss Trump's language of extremism by diagnosing a delusion. While I do believe that Trump is emotionally unstable and delusional, neither of those things change that his language has long been inflammatory and extreme with references to violence.  

https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-violence-tweets-racist-hate-speech

Why don't you want to support the statements and claims that you make? There is no comparison between the two congressional members that you named, the comparison is ridiculous, maybe that's why you want to not talk about that now. It's probably best to refrain from making inflammatory claims and comparisons if you can't back them up with thoughtful examples. Just because you've heard something somewhere doesn't mean that it's true or worthy of repeating, right?

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It's difficult to have clear communication when we arbitrarily alter word meanings.

It's not necessary to dismiss Trump's language of extremism by diagnosing a delusion. While I do believe that Trump is emotionally unstable and delusional, neither of those things change that his language has long been inflammatory and extreme with references to violence.  

https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-violence-tweets-racist-hate-speech

Why don't you want to support the statements and claims that you make? There is no comparison between the two congressional members that you named, the comparison is ridiculous, maybe that's why you want to not talk about that now. It's probably best to refrain from making inflammatory claims and comparisons if you can't back them up with thoughtful examples. Just because you've heard something somewhere doesn't mean that it's true or worthy of repeating, right?

I thought I did state examples. You're right, if we can't agree on a definition then it is pointless. 

My point about Trump is that it is not feasible to in one breath claim he co-ordinated a premeditated attempt to overthrow a US election, then claim he has cognition issues. Those 2 concepts contradict themselfs. It is more likely he has mental health issues. However I am not qualified to diagnose him or at least make an educated theory without medical records and such. 

13 hours ago, Assistedl8ving said:

I do not know what that means. 

Do you know about World War II?  The Swiss decided to remain neutral.  Their bankers were happy to keep the gold teeth and art work of the persons who were put in ovens.  Neutrality in some situations is amoral.  

4 minutes ago, Assistedl8ving said:

I thought I did state examples. You're right, if we can't agree on a definition then it is pointless. 

My point about Trump is that it is not feasible to in one breath claim he co-ordinated a premeditated attempt to overthrow a US election, then claim he has cognition issues. Those 2 concepts contradict themselfs. It is more likely he has mental health issues. However I am not qualified to diagnose him or at least make an educated theory without medical records and such. 

That's ridiculous as an argument.  Cognition issues and criminal behavior are not mutually exclusive.  I just saw the speech he reheorificed and filmed to call in his lackeys to leave Washington.  It was the film that was NOT released to the news.  He was blathering with nonsense sentences.

28 minutes ago, Assistedl8ving said:

I thought I did state examples. You're right, if we can't agree on a definition then it is pointless. 

My point about Trump is that it is not feasible to in one breath claim he co-ordinated a premeditated attempt to overthrow a US election, then claim he has cognition issues. Those 2 concepts contradict themselfs. It is more likely he has mental health issues. However I am not qualified to diagnose him or at least make an educated theory without medical records and such. 

You are kidding about the Trump thing, right? Yes, he has mental health issues... that seems pretty obvious, even his staff and advisorswere discussing that last January.  Mental health issues don't preclude someone from experiencing cognitive decline. The cognitive decline might complicate their mental health stability but one doesn't prevent the other.  Is this just a logical failure, this idea that people suffering from mental illness can't experience cognitive decline or did someone tell you that? 

No you didn't provide examples... you just made the blanket comparison of the two women as is common in right wing media (especially social media) commentary. The comparison is ridiculous. 

1 hour ago, subee said:

Do you know about World War II?  The Swiss decided to remain neutral.  Their bankers were happy to keep the gold teeth and art work of the persons who were put in ovens.  Neutrality in some situations is amoral.  

No? What is this world War ll? Never heard of it. 

Nope, Swiss Bank? Amoral? I have never put anyone in an oven or kept someone's gold teeth. Gross. 

15 minutes ago, Assistedl8ving said:

No? What is this world War ll? Never heard of it. 

Nope, Swiss Bank? Amoral? I have never put anyone in an oven or kept someone's gold teeth. Gross. 

So now you understand the reference? 

2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So now you understand the reference? 

Maybe hasn't graduated from high school yet?

Biden recession so bad even spam has to be locked up.

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2022/07/31/photo-spam-locked-due-inflation-crime-nyc-gone-too-far/

17 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

Biden recession so bad even spam has to be locked up.

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2022/07/31/photo-spam-locked-due-inflation-crime-nyc-gone-too-far/

 I see that you didn’t actually read the story. It actually says “Employees claimed thefts at the shop increased in the past couple of years, and one estimated approximately four shoplifting incidents happened each evening.”  So, ahhh, the increase in shoplifting is not directly linked the recession that we may be in. And yeah, I know that you use the very simple 2 consecutive negative gdp’s for determining a recession. 

Anyway, here are 2 articles that explain why shoplifting has exploded during the pandemic which is why so many items are now locked up. Think resale….
 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurendebter/2022/04/02/stores-locking-things-up-rising-theft/?sh=5c329b5011ca  

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/30/business/drug-stores-locked-products/index.html