President Biden thread

Again, I did not say with certainty that Americans who disapprove of Biden are lacking in intelligence or the faculty to reason. I was wondering why they don't understand how the President has very little influence on inflation or the price of gas. I also proposed that people could choose not to understand or are misinformed by media. 

I don't get out a lot due to me avoiding crowds. But in my limited interactions with people outside of my immediate family, I do hear that people in my community place the blame of high gas, housing, and food costs directly on the President. And they think that with the flip of a switch he can turn it around, but he is waiting until closer to the midterms so the Democrats will get more votes. I hear this on talk radio, in stores and restaurants, from patients, and from my in-laws. Placing full blame on Biden is just not accurate, and I don't understand why they feel this way. 

On 4/20/2022 at 2:54 PM, Beerman said:

"We're not any worse than the other guys!  Biden/ Harris (or, TBD) 2024"

If only it was believable.

That might be the way that Trump supporters might joke about it, but Biden/Harris ISN'T  worse than Trump/Pence. In fact, they are clearly better in several obvious ways, the most obvious example is pandemic leadership another would be support to Ukraine. That makes the "joke" not only believable, but true. 

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

I know what you said and I'm comfortable with my responses to it.

I've also said previously why Biden is largely, not completely responsible for inflation and rising oil prices.  

Remember when Biden said inflation was temporary?  That was last Summer.  Then, he said it had peaked.  That was last December.  And let's not forget Joe Manchin saved us from a bill that many experts said would be risky or at least modestly contribute to more inflation.  And, the Democrats haven't yet given up on that bill.

More recently, inflation has been rebranded as the "Putin Price Hike".  Of course, inflation was out if control before Putin did anything.

You may want to reconsider who exactly doesn't understand what's going on.

Don't you think that the inflation preceding Putin's invasion was related to the pandemic? 

The inflation is temporary. 

Do you think that Putin's war contributed to the inflationary rate after Biden made that statement in December 2021? I do.  

I think that corporate greed contributes to inflation in the USA, what do you think?

8 hours ago, nursej22 said:

Again, I did not say with certainty that Americans who disapprove of Biden are lacking in intelligence or the faculty to reason. I was wondering why they don't understand how the President has very little influence on inflation or the price of gas. I also proposed that people could choose not to understand or are misinformed by media. 

I don't get out a lot due to me avoiding crowds. But in my limited interactions with people outside of my immediate family, I do hear that people in my community place the blame of high gas, housing, and food costs directly on the President. And they think that with the flip of a switch he can turn it around, but he is waiting until closer to the midterms so the Democrats will get more votes. I hear this on talk radio, in stores and restaurants, from patients, and from my in-laws. Placing full blame on Biden is just not accurate, and I don't understand why they feel this way. 

I don't know if you remember during the Obama years when the recession was ending and there was a disconnect that the economy was still bad and the Democrats couldn't seem to convince people otherwise.  I guess for the average person it took a while for things to get better for them even though the numbers were all indicating that the recession had ended and things were so much better.

Maybe people don't trust the news.  Or they just see thing and need someone to blame.  Right now that's Biden.  Like I said it doesn't matter what the numbers say.

TMB I think hit the nail on the head when he said Trumps failures, lies and pandemic response overshadowed Trump's accomplishments.  Perhaps the same is Biden, it doesn't matter that the news for the economy is good, inflation and high gas prices void those out and it's Biden's fault.

6 hours ago, Beerman said:

I know what you said and I'm comfortable with my responses to it.

I've also said previously why Biden is largely, not completely responsible for inflation and rising oil prices.  

Remember when Biden said inflation was temporary?  That was last Summer.  Then, he said it had peaked.  That was last December.  And let's not forget Joe Manchin saved us from a bill that many experts said would be risky or at least modestly contribute to more inflation.  And, the Democrats haven't yet given up on that bill.

More recently, inflation has been rebranded as the "Putin Price Hike".  Of course, inflation was out if control before Putin did anything.

You may want to reconsider who exactly doesn't understand what's going on.

The War in Ukraine is widely considered a hindrance in inflation getting better.  It's put a wrench in strategy around the world to deal with it.

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/world/2022-02-25-ukraine-uncertainty-hinders-central-banks-fight-against-inflation/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/war-in-ukraine-complicates-the-feds-inflation-strategy-russia-monetary-policy-free-markets-energy-prices-11646002351?mod=opinion_major_pos6\

https://fortune.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-russia-invasion-us-inflation/

Yes, inflation started before the war because of supply and demand, covid recovery, government spending, rising wages, etc.  It may fit a narrative that Biden is playing the blame game, but it certainly isn't making it better or easier to deal with.

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Unemployment, jobless claims, labor participating is all great news (covid recovery has something to do with that too, just like inflation), but those things directly effect a small percentage of the population.

Most of us are in the same job situation, but all of us are facing inflation and high gas prices.

That's right, and the reality about inflation and energy prices are twisted and tortured by republican lawmakers and political pundits to generate fear and anger amongst their voting base. They do that because it's better for the authoritarians if their supporters "believe" rather than "know" about these things. 

On 4/22/2022 at 8:50 AM, Beerman said:

Unemployment, jobless claims, labor participating is all great news (covid recovery has something to do with that too, just like inflation), but those things directly effect a small percentage of the population.

Most of us are in the same job situation, but all of us are facing inflation and high gas prices.

I literally have dozens of posts saying these are the primary concerns and trump pretty much all the good news or any other concerns.  The last time I said this was about the brouhaha over Disney and CRT, etc. 

I still think there is a disconnect that people think the economy is a disaster.  Inflation and high gas prices are a disaster.  The economy is roaring along.  Although I haven't check but best friend said stocks did horrible this week, so I might stand corrected.

All presidents keep visitor logs. Did they have to go to court to get access to the Obama White House Visitor Logs?

I was particularly impressed by the quotes in the NYPOST article from Ron Johnson  (R, WI) and Tweed Cruz  (R, TX) as if they are reliable sources rather than dangerous partisans.  Heck, Johnson has been a fount of Russian propaganda since his July 4th visit to Russia early in the Trump presidency.  Do you remember how he kept repeating russian propaganda during the first impeachment hearing? And how his committee shared russian disinformation about election interference? And how the FBI told him that he was a target for such propaganda?

I would say that the Post earned it's reputation for inaccuracy and bias with that article.