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Wow.  No one has started such a thread yet?

After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

37 minutes ago, subee said:

I am sure that Biden, along with me, never anticipated that 30% of the population would not take advantage of a vaccine. 

Why is that?  Vaccines had been out for a year.  We knew there were many who are hesitant or refused.  

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41 minutes ago, subee said:

Did I mention that stupid people are very dangerous?

If nothing else, you've made that very clear.  Thank you.

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9 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Why is that?  Vaccines had been out for a year.  We knew there were many who are hesitant or refused.  

When he took office the vaccine hadn't been out that long and primarily it was health care providers and the elderly getting vaccinated and demand was high.  I really thought that vaccinations would proceed on a massive scale, but you're right the beginning of the hesitancy were already being seen, just not for a year.

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2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

When he took office the vaccine hadn't been out that long and primarily it was health care providers and the elderly getting vaccinated and demand was high.  I really thought that vaccinations would proceed on a massive scale, but you're right the beginning of the hesitancy were already being seen, just not for a year.

You are correct, obviously.  Thank goodness it hasn't been as long as it seems. 

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19 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Actually,  the quote I had in mind was the one he used over and over again on the campaign trail..  "I'm not going to shut down the economy.  I'm not going to shut down the country.  I'm going to shut down the virus."

Then on July 4th he pretty much declared victory.

Don't forget the mandates he put or has tried to put in place 

Now, he's saying there isn't much he can do.  It's up to the states. 

I'm not really gleeful I have this to use against him.  I was more amused that he would say such a thing.  Frankly, I'm a bit surprised anyone is defending it.  I thought if anything, it would be said that he misspoke  

 

It was the "LOL" that caused me to react.

I'm not defending that he was wrong about the virus and that he didn't fail.  I'm not laying the entire blame for the failure on him however.    Declaring victory against covid was indeed proven wrong.   But really at the time infections had dropped dramatically, 850,000 jobs were created in June, I can look back and say yeah he was wrong, but he was optimistic at least.  Hindsight is foresight, but I still don't think it's anything to LOL about.

I am defending that supporting the states is the correct path at this particularly point.  

The truth of the matter is the virus is going to do what it's going to do.  Right now even the vaccinated are getting it at high rates.  

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Why is that?  Vaccines had been out for a year.  We knew there were many who are hesitant or refused.  

We just didn't realize how radicalized so many republican voters are. Their willingness to gamble with covid because that's the opposite of the public health guidance was a surprising side effect of the Trump effect. 

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3 hours ago, Beerman said:

Is this a serious post?

Yep. Serious as millions of gullible people believing that the 2020 election was fraught with fraud which then justifies putting limits on voting and giving electoral power to legislators.  As serious as electing uneducated trouble makers like Taylor-Greene to congress.  I'm guessing that you haven't read much about how Trump has damaged our federal government.  No surprise there.  I suspect that you are way too busy holding the current president to an entirely different set of standards than you applied to the previous president to read much recent history. 

I'm as serious about the damage that Trump did to our institutionsand federal offices as you are about Biden failures. 

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6 hours ago, Tweety said:

https://news.lee.net/news/president-joe-biden-year-in-review/video_aa3f0ecb-ada0-5d00-9b22-0a56d66ed9d4.html#_ga=2.76638493.922839421.1640697950-1016488004.1640697950

 

I wouldn't say that Biden's 2021 was a "dumpster fire" but it certainly was a "hot mess". 

I'm not sure if the above link will work but it sums it up briefly.  Some of the things Democrats like such as the vaccine mandate and the infrastructure package aren't viewed as positives from the right.

 I think we all can agree the withdrawal from Afghanistan was a failure.  The person in the video mentions that this might not weigh heavily on voter's minds but it's something republicans rightfully will be unforgiving about and will harp on.   Inflation, the supply chain, covid, are all a hot mess for him.

Interestingly the video doesn't mention the border which is a huge deal to the right.

I don't blame him for not being able to unify what is now a toxic political and cultural war in our country.  Jesus Christ himself wouldn't be able to accomplish this.

Getting out of Afghanistan was a win/win. The military told us they were planning all of 2020 for that withdrawal per Esper...I guess they needed more time or money or something because their plans were problematic.  The military seems to have a problem executing the plans that they want us to have confidence in.  The state department wasted most of 2020 and made zero headway in identifying and relocating or allies in the country, that was Pompeo's agenda. 

The pandemic is the author of supply and inflationary issues...at least this president isn't content to lie to us about it. 

 

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8 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The Trump administration intentionally broke things so that you could blame Biden.  Trump counted on a percentage of his followers being so blinded by partisan animus and propaganda that they would be unable resist.  We see the fruits of his efforts here. 

I thought Trump tried to overturn an election and led a insurrection in a attempt to stay in power.  Seems odd he would have "intentionally broke things" that he planned to inherit.

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12 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Getting out of Afghanistan was a win/win. The military told us they were planning all of 2020 for that withdrawal per Esper...I guess they needed more time or money or something because their plans were problematic.  The military seems to have a problem executing the plans that they want us to have confidence in.  The state department wasted most of 2020 and made zero headway in identifying and relocating or allies in the country, that was Pompeo's agenda. 

The pandemic is the author of supply and inflationary issues...at least this president isn't content to lie to us about it. 

 

A year in now, what is fair to hold the current administration responsible for?  Anything at all?

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3 hours ago, subee said:

It's difficult for a reasonable person to evaluate the damage that stupid people can do.  Stupid people, as proven by where we are now in this pandemic, are very dangerous.  I am sure that Biden, along with me, never anticipated that 30% of the population would not take advantage of a vaccine.  It is unfathomable to reasonable people that people like Rand Paul, Jim Jordan and MTG would be elected to office.  Failed, failed and failed.  It is unfathomable that people would support traumatizing health care workers because of what they read on facebook.  Did I mention that stupid people are very dangerous?

Exactly who are the stupid people, and how did they get us to where we are now in the pandemic?

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Getting out of Afghanistan was a win/win. The military told us they were planning all of 2020 for that withdrawal per Esper...I guess they needed more time or money or something because their plans were problematic.  The military seems to have a problem executing the plans that they want us to have confidence in.  The state department wasted most of 2020 and made zero headway in identifying and relocating or allies in the country, that was Pompeo's agenda. 

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And who were the Secretaries of Defense and State when the Afghanistan withdrawal was conducted?

ETA: Or is you mentioned in another post, is this another incident where the "Trump administration intentionally broke thins so that you could blame Biden?"

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