President Biden thread

3 minutes ago, Cclm said:

....because you disagree with my opinions. There for they entice "hate". So should nobody say anything because someone might become hateful? I'll agree. You be the first to delete your account. You know ,because someone might use your comments to use as hate. I mean anyone can interpret something and become hateful. Better get rid of the Bible, Koran and any other religious scripture! 

Yes, I disagree with your opinion, which seems to be that tolerance of trans people includes accepting that there is no such thing as a man or woman.  That appears to be a false claim as this doesn't appear to be promoted as part of any prominent transgendered ideology.  The effect being that people should feel threatened by tolerance of trans people.  

15 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Are you going to tell me how my comments are bigoted? I wasn't proved wrong in the abortion. You couldn't answer the question. LOL

Why am I required to explain that bigotry to you upon demand? You can't be bothered to source your belief that women are being told that their gender doesn't exist but I'm held to a different standard. 

Yeah...your stated beliefs about late term abortion were soundly and clearly refuted.  You've just provided evidence that you aren't very receptive to discovering you are wrong and you weren't willing to change your mind. 

Funny that you didn't answer my question about your sources but you are focused upon others answering your questions. 

3 hours ago, MunoRN said:

Yes, I disagree with your opinion, which seems to be that tolerance of trans people includes accepting that there is no such thing as a man or woman.  That appears to be a false claim as this doesn't appear to be promoted as part of any prominent transgendered ideology.  The effect being that people should feel threatened by tolerance of trans people.  

Perfect. It doesn't make me a bigot. I have a different opinion. We are lucky that we have that freedom to disagree. However if we continue to shut people down by calling them disparaging names then there could be a problem. 

49 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Perfect. It doesn't make me a bigot. I have a different opinion. We are lucky that we have that freedom to disagree. However if we continue to shut people down by calling them disparaging names then there could be a problem. 

Who called you a disparaging name? If that happened it doesn't seem to have shut you down.  

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Who called you a disparaging name? If that happened it doesn't seem to have shut you down.  

You have called me a bigot in this thread and so did another member. You and others have also implied that I possess white supremacist/Nazi theology in other post. 

It doesn't and won't shut me down because it's redicoulas.  I'm a indigenous black white, Nazi/white supremacists thinking person. Hahaha how absurd.  Can't take that seriously it's hilarious. 

However, I have seen and witnessed many times someone's opinion being silenced because they do not want to be labeled as such. So they stop talking because almost 0 people want to be those things. It's a great far left tactic. It's becoming worn out tho, lost its meaning because it's thrown around so frivolously. More and more are starting not to care. Kinda of a shame tho. Could you imagine being Jewish and you hear people using those labels all the time? Disrespectful imo

2 hours ago, Cclm said:

Perfect. It doesn't make me a bigot. I have a different opinion. We are lucky that we have that freedom to disagree. However if we continue to shut people down by calling them disparaging names then there could be a problem. 

"Unreasonably attaching a belief" based on someone's perceived membership in a particular group is what bigoted means, where we differ in opinion is that you think it's fine to be prejudiced and bigoted, I disagree.  

So yes, based on what you've stated so far you are indeed bigoted and prejudiced towards transgendered individuals based on variations in their development that contributed to a gender identity that is not as clear cut as what most of us experience.  

We disagree on whether being bigoted and prejudiced is a bad thing and whether it's wrong to encourage fear and/or hatred of a group because they are different than you.  I suppose you could argue, in a really f-d up way, that this is simply a difference of opinion.

58 minutes ago, Cclm said:

You have called me a bigot in this thread

No I have not. 

58 minutes ago, Cclm said:

You and others have also implied that I possess white supremacist/Nazi theology in other post.

You critique our comments and we critique yours.  If you were sharing white supremacist rhetoric wouldn't you want to know? I would.  That's how we learn and grow. You said something earlier about being receptive...

1 hour ago, Cclm said:

So they stop talking because almost 0 people want to be those things. It's a great far left tactic. It's becoming worn out tho, lost its meaning because it's thrown around so frivolously. More and more are starting not to care. Kinda of a shame tho. Could you imagine being Jewish and you hear people using those labels all the time? Disrespectful imo

Yeah.  It's been mentioned to you that it's inappropriate to throw around the Nazi reference as loosely as you have. That is, indeed, disrespectful.   I'll let you guess and assume why people stop talking. 

58 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

"Unreasonably attaching a belief" based on someone's perceived membership in a particular group is what bigoted means, where we differ in opinion is that you think it's fine to be prejudiced and bigoted, I disagree.  

So yes, based on what you've stated so far you are indeed bigoted and prejudiced towards transgendered individuals based on variations in their development that contributed to a gender identity that is not as clear cut as what most of us experience.  

We disagree on whether being bigoted and prejudiced is a bad thing and whether it's wrong to encourage fear and/or hatred of a group because they are different than you.  I suppose you could argue, in a really f-d up way, that this is simply a difference of opinion.

Nope.  I have not said anything bigoted or prejudice towards transgender at all. Not one thing. I have said multiple times they should not be treated with disrespect and have every right to make their own choices. I haven't said they are defective or illegitimate in anyway. 

If you are going to accuse people of bigotry, prove it. 

9 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No I have not. 

You critique our comments and we critique yours.  If you were sharing white supremacist rhetoric wouldn't you want to know? I would.  That's how we learn and grow. You said something earlier about being receptive...

Yeah.  It's been mentioned to you that it's inappropriate to throw around the Nazi reference as loosely as you have. That is, indeed, disrespectful.   I'll let you guess and assume why people stop talking. 

I do not accuse people of Nazi rhetoric or anything like that. You are not a qualified to tell  people if they speaking "Nazi rhetoric " with your extreem bias and resent for conservatives. I for the most part do not make personal attacks, except when I'm being purposely fiticous.  . I do not say anything in attempt to stop your speech. 

7 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Why am I required to explain that bigotry to you upon demand? You can't be bothered to source your belief that women are being told that their gender doesn't exist but I'm held to a different standard. 

Yeah...your stated beliefs about late term abortion were soundly and clearly refuted.  You've just provided evidence that you aren't very receptive to discovering you are wrong and you weren't willing to change your mind. 

Funny that you didn't answer my question about your sources but you are focused upon others answering your questions. 

No. You couldn't answer the question. Go back. I am not calling people a bigot. 

13 hours ago, Cclm said:

I do not accuse people of Nazi rhetoric or anything like that. You are not a qualified to tell  people if they speaking "Nazi rhetoric " with your extreem bias and resent for conservatives. I for the most part do not make personal attacks, except when I'm being purposely fiticous.  . I do not say anything in attempt to stop your speech. 

 

No. You couldn't answer the question. Go back. I am not calling people a bigot. 

You throw around Nazi comparisons loosely.  

You don't have any idea what I am qualified to speak to or about.  You don't know much about Nazi history or ideology and you know less than that about me.  

You assume that I have resentment for conservatives when in fact, I am a fiscal conservative from a politically conservative family living in a conservative state. 

You've attacked me multiple times, or at least attempted to directly insult me.  I don't know what fiticous means...maybe you mean facetious? I guess maybe I'm supposed to read those attempts to insult my intelligence or whatever as just inappropriate humor.  

What question are you saying I can't answer? Is it about bigotry again? Because I don't need to explain something that I didn't say.  Meanwhile, you are apparently still too busy to provide any of the requested citations but not too busy to post again and again.  

11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You throw around Nazi comparisons loosely.  

You don't have any idea what I am qualified to speak to our about.  You don't know much about Nazi history or ideology and you know less than that about me.  

You assume that I have resentment for conservatives when in fact, I am a fiscal conservative from a politically conservative family living in a conservative state. 

You've attacked me multiple times, or at least attempted to directly insult me.  I don't know what fiticous means...maybe you mean facetious? I guess maybe I'm supposed to read those attempts to insult my intelligence or whatever as just inappropriate humor.  

What question are you saying I can't answer? Is it about bigotry again? Because I don't need to explain something that I didn't say.  Meanwhile, you are apparently still too busy to provide any of the requested citations but not too busy to post again and again.  

I believe you do know more about Nazi theology than I. 100% there. 

I should have said republican or Trump supporters. Are you a "fiscal republican Trump supporter"?  Thourgh out all these threads you actively insult degrade and try to manipulate anyone who disagrees with you. 

When I posted that source of propaganda tactics and compared them to you and your rhetoric, did you actually read it? I know know you did not because at the end of the article, the author added a "disclaimer" because he wrote it before Trump won in 2016.  I was waiting for you to mention it but you didn't because you didn't even really read it. So why should I feed your hobby of disparaging people with different political views and waste my time on trying to find a common ground with somebody so far into their left right theology who will find a way to discredit anything that doesn't align with their beliefs?  

You will never change your mind but I'm not here to do that. By conversing with you and others on this thread, a person who really is opened minded will see and understand how some on the far left talk and treat other people. It isn't your words and arguments that will sway them to avoid your dogma, it's how you talk and interact. It happened to me. 

Far left echo chambers have mostly gone on unchallenged .Not this one, not anymore. I've noticed more and more people on here challenging radical left ideology.  

Your actions and behavior are worth far more than your arguments. 

So keep on fighting your self made "social justice " war. It proves my points over and over. 

On 10/14/2021 at 6:47 AM, Beerman said:

"Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) slammed the Biden administration during a Fox News interview over the weekend, saying that the administration had repeatedly lied to the American people about scandals that are unfolding under its watch."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-the-american-people-are-being-lied-to-by-the-biden-administration?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

The only actual claim she appears to make is that under Biden the borders are now "open", it's not clear what she means but supports this by pointing out that apprehensions at the border have increased 317% over last year.  

I'm not sure how she feels it helps her argument to point out we're apprehending more people attempting to cross the border than Trump was.