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I thought this was a joke or some rouge gimmick company in an infomercial, but I just googled this and learned it's a real "drug" made by GlaskoSmithKline. This is "purified" fish oil that GSK claims lowers "very high cholesterol". I have fish oil in my refrigerator. This is what our drug companies are spending money on? We wonder why health care is in such shambles? We haven't found a cure for HIV in over 30 years but don't worry folks, we've created some nice purified fish oil for you!
Thanks Morte!! Yep I take CQ-10 also but no matter what cant tolerate the statins. It doesnt hit until I have been on them about 3-4 months then bang, I cant move. Tried several different Rx's for them no luck. In regards to latisse - you can get the generic Careprost which is the very same product for $10.00 instead of the $120.00 Latisse cost. I've been using it for 4 months now and it works. Alldaychemist has it. With a patent on Latissee and also if you get the generic from your reg docs (Careprost or Lumigan) it can flag your insurance company you have eye issues. If the name brand then it's cosmetic and not medical. I order from overseas which is a reputable company thank goodness (far and few inbetween of those). I'd rather pay the $10 then the $120 lol.
Thanks Morte!! Yep I take CQ-10 also but no matter what cant tolerate the statins. It doesnt hit until I have been on them about 3-4 months then bang, I cant move. Tried several different Rx's for them no luck. In regards to latisse - you can get the generic Careprost which is the very same product for $10.00 instead of the $120.00 Latisse cost. I've been using it for 4 months now and it works. Alldaychemist has it. With a patent on Latissee and also if you get the generic from your reg docs (Careprost or Lumigan) it can flag your insurance company you have eye issues. If the name brand then it's cosmetic and not medical. I order from overseas which is a reputable company thank goodness (far and few inbetween of those). I'd rather pay the $10 then the $120 lol.
you might find Dr Sinatra's research at UCONN interesting....the doses of Co10 can get quite high for the proper effect.....
I have taken fish oil capsules for a long time. I'm more regular with them since I'm getting older.I also take flax seed oil. I've read alot on the benefits with regards to reducing stroke and heart attacks. And although I don't buy the ones that are burpless (don't bother me at all), I do get the ones that are purified to eliminate the mercury.
I'm in agreement with many that making them Rx means that many may be able to afford them. There are many good natural products out there that are safer and work better for many. I hope they continue to give more and more education to MDs and nurses with regards to herbs and such.
please check out the links i posted, unless you have FULL pharmacy coverage, with NO copays....the OTC will probably be cheaper...and we, the insurance carrying public, is footing the bill for an unnecessary expense...
please check out the links i posted, unless you have FULL pharmacy coverage, with NO copays....the OTC will probably be cheaper...and we, the insurance carrying public, is footing the bill for an unnecessary expense...
Thanks for the info..but I was talking about OTCs in general. I buy mine OTC and wait for B1G1 free sales. In many cases people only had to pay a $5 copay for meds before they became over the counter, but once they became OTC they were expensive. If you are barely making it, the difference is big. I've been there. :)
I understand the reasoning behind it and stuff, I didn't hear that Latisse was found that way but I heard about the changing color, they have posters for it all over my dermatologists office and brouchers and I read on of those. I mean I pay money each month for clear skin, I kick myself for waiting until a few years ago to finally get into a dermatologist when the problem was getting worse. (I mean I am 30 I thought the acne days were over in teen years, which I actually didn't get to bad) my problem was also more deep not so much topical acne. Anyway, I have spent tons of money on cosmetic stuff, so I do get the need. But it still just seemed absurd to me. Like I know Rogaine, (to tired to try and spell name of it right now lol) was also found a similar way,and I can even understand that. Thinning hair is noticeable. Obviously at the end of the day it comes down to what makes a person feel beautiful, but for some reason, having medication for thicker fuller eyelashes that has some pretty harsh side effects (from I remember reading) seemed absurd to me. Like the pros don't outweigh the cons, I can not think of 1 time I have ever looked at someone and though, MAN she has some thin eyelashes, or short eyelashes. I have thought, MAN she needs some new mascara or lessons on applying it. LOL but that's it.It's a personal choice and I respect that even if I might not agree with it.
I didn't have much acne when I was a teenager but had frequent bouts of cystic acne in my thirties and forties. Not only did my insurance refuse to pay for Retin-A when one is above a certain age (because there is the cosmetic effect of decreasing wrinkles), but once I was denied coverage altogether because of "chronic" conditions: a prolapsed uterus and adult acne. Now, I can understand an insurance company getting persnickety over Retin-A but to cite adult acne as a reason for denying someone insurance altogether is asinine.
This whole eyelash nonsense (which now even has a name: hypotrichosis of the eyelashes) is a marketing scheme in which a normal condition is pathologized in order to create a "need" among women who will buy the product because, thanks to Brooke Shields and the crew at Allergan, they now realize that they don't need just mascara, they need a prescription. Again, I don't have a problem at all with the pharmaceutical industry creating and even marketing products that are meant for cosmetic purposes only. I do have an issue with slapping a medical diagnosis on something as trivial as sporifice eyelashes and trotting out an expensive advertising campaign to entice consumers to make unnecessary physician visits and spend over $100 a month on a prescription drug---solely for a made-up, market-driven diagnosis.
Please understand---I have no quibble with anyone who wants to plunk down $100 a month on Latisse or any other prescription agent that is intended for cosmetic enhancement---but I do get tired of the pharmaceutical companies telling up us that we're too this, we're too that---and now we had best worry about how thick our eyelashes are? Oy.
You guys realize a good many of our medicines come from extracted, purified, and concentrated natural sources, right?And you understand the benefits of having that process regulated, right?
The two obvious examples are belladonna and foxglove. How DARE the companies try to make money off of mere plants! Why, I do believe we'd all be better off with unregulated and untested atropine and digoxin (respectively)!
It is really going to get interesting if medical marijuana becomes mainstream. I wonder which pharmaceutical company will be the first to try to patent it.
The drug ads on TV would be kind of interesting, though.
I thought this was a joke or some rouge gimmick company in an infomercial, but I just googled this and learned it's a real "drug" made by GlaskoSmithKline. This is "purified" fish oil that GSK claims lowers "very high cholesterol". I have fish oil in my refrigerator. This is what our drug companies are spending money on? We wonder why health care is in such shambles? We haven't found a cure for HIV in over 30 years but don't worry folks, we've created some nice purified fish oil for you!
Oh, yes, Lovaza, an esterified fish oil. Part of the advantage is that it does not have the objectionable taste and smell that some people experience with OTC fish oil; never mind that it costs a heckuva lot more.
I didn't have much acne when I was a teenager but had frequent bouts of cystic acne in my thirties and forties. Not only did my insurance refuse to pay for Retin-A when one is above a certain age (because there is the cosmetic effect of decreasing wrinkles), but once I was denied coverage altogether because of "chronic" conditions: a prolapsed uterus and adult acne. Now, I can understand an insurance company getting persnickety over Retin-A but to cite adult acne as a reason for denying someone insurance altogether is asinine.This whole eyelash nonsense (which now even has a name: hypotrichosis of the eyelashes) is a marketing scheme in which a normal condition is pathologized in order to create a "need" among women who will buy the product because, thanks to Brooke Shields and the crew at Allergan, they now realize that they don't need just mascara, they need a prescription. Again, I don't have a problem at all with the pharmaceutical industry creating and even marketing products that are meant for cosmetic purposes only. I do have an issue with slapping a medical diagnosis on something as trivial as sporifice eyelashes and trotting out an expensive advertising campaign to entice consumers to make unnecessary physician visits and spend over $100 a month on a prescription drug---solely for a made-up, market-driven diagnosis.
Please understand---I have no quibble with anyone who wants to plunk down $100 a month on Latisse or any other prescription agent that is intended for cosmetic enhancement---but I do get tired of the pharmaceutical companies telling up us that we're too this, we're too that---and now we had best worry about how thick our eyelashes are? Oy.
That is exactly what started happening with me, I started getting very cystic like acne, (actually that is what it was according to the dermatologist). I had a hysterectomy and cyctocile repair and recotcile repair from prolapse. (I am sure I spelled those wrong) but I did keep my ovaries so I don't think it was hormonal issues causing it but I just hoped it would go away, I noticed it did seem to get worse with certain meds I would take. I am also prone to very large deep under the skin cysts in other area, different then what was on my face, but still seemed excessive. I looked into how much a office visit was for the dermatologist a few months ago and decided to just go and pay on my own. She put me on a generic form of Septra DS. She said she didn't think it would be strong enough looking at my skin and the areas that broke out really bad but that we would try it for 2 months and then I would need blood tests and if it wasn't working enough we would add accutane. She really didn't want to go that route though because of how much I would have to get blood tests done and stuff. The Septra D has been working miracles. My skin is so clear now and I get an occasional pimple, nothing serious. Within just a 2 weeks I noticed a difference. (my OB years ago tried putting me on Minocyclin but I ended up having an allergic reaction to it 2 weeks into it). When I went in for my 2 month follow up a few weeks ago, she was really impressed at how well it was working so we are just sticking with that. My other cysts have cut down as well and don't flare up near as often. It's totally been such a huge change. A lot of people have noticed as well and asked me how I got my skin to clear so up so well. I wish I would have gotten in years ago.
I feel the same way on the eyelash stuff and to be honest, in the posters and close ups, I really didn't think Brooks eyelashes look that full and thick at all. I have seen much fuller and thicker lashes with false lashes or with a really good mascara. Like I said, I have never once looked at someone and thought, MAN she has some thin or small eyelashes!! :| To each their own!
That is exactly what started happening with me, I started getting very cystic like acne, (actually that is what it was according to the dermatologist). I had a hysterectomy and cyctocile repair and recotcile repair from prolapse. (I am sure I spelled those wrong) but I did keep my ovaries so I don't think it was hormonal issues causing it but I just hoped it would go away, I noticed it did seem to get worse with certain meds I would take. I am also prone to very large deep under the skin cysts in other area, different then what was on my face, but still seemed excessive. I looked into how much a office visit was for the dermatologist a few months ago and decided to just go and pay on my own. She put me on a generic form of Septra DS. She said she didn't think it would be strong enough looking at my skin and the areas that broke out really bad but that we would try it for 2 months and then I would need blood tests and if it wasn't working enough we would add accutane. She really didn't want to go that route though because of how much I would have to get blood tests done and stuff. The Septra D has been working miracles. My skin is so clear now and I get an occasional pimple, nothing serious. Within just a 2 weeks I noticed a difference. (my OB years ago tried putting me on Minocyclin but I ended up having an allergic reaction to it 2 weeks into it). When I went in for my 2 month follow up a few weeks ago, she was really impressed at how well it was working so we are just sticking with that. My other cysts have cut down as well and don't flare up near as often. It's totally been such a huge change. A lot of people have noticed as well and asked me how I got my skin to clear so up so well. I wish I would have gotten in years ago.I feel the same way on the eyelash stuff and to be honest, in the posters and close ups, I really didn't think Brooks eyelashes look that full and thick at all. I have seen much fuller and thicker lashes with false lashes or with a really good mascara. Like I said, I have never once looked at someone and thought, MAN she has some thin or small eyelashes!! :| To each their own!
that is called acne inversa...also hydradenitis superativa
That is exactly what started happening with me, I started getting very cystic like acne, (actually that is what it was according to the dermatologist). I had a hysterectomy and cyctocile repair and recotcile repair from prolapse. (I am sure I spelled those wrong) but I did keep my ovaries so I don't think it was hormonal issues causing it but I just hoped it would go away, I noticed it did seem to get worse with certain meds I would take. I am also prone to very large deep under the skin cysts in other area, different then what was on my face, but still seemed excessive. I looked into how much a office visit was for the dermatologist a few months ago and decided to just go and pay on my own. She put me on a generic form of Septra DS. She said she didn't think it would be strong enough looking at my skin and the areas that broke out really bad but that we would try it for 2 months and then I would need blood tests and if it wasn't working enough we would add accutane. She really didn't want to go that route though because of how much I would have to get blood tests done and stuff. The Septra D has been working miracles. My skin is so clear now and I get an occasional pimple, nothing serious. Within just a 2 weeks I noticed a difference. (my OB years ago tried putting me on Minocyclin but I ended up having an allergic reaction to it 2 weeks into it). When I went in for my 2 month follow up a few weeks ago, she was really impressed at how well it was working so we are just sticking with that. My other cysts have cut down as well and don't flare up near as often. It's totally been such a huge change. A lot of people have noticed as well and asked me how I got my skin to clear so up so well. I wish I would have gotten in years ago.I feel the same way on the eyelash stuff and to be honest, in the posters and close ups, I really didn't think Brooks eyelashes look that full and thick at all. I have seen much fuller and thicker lashes with false lashes or with a really good mascara. Like I said, I have never once looked at someone and thought, MAN she has some thin or small eyelashes!! :| To each their own!
We have similar medical histories, LOL! Only I had the hysterectomy (due to prolapse) last year and the acne has been an issue since I was----oh----about your age! (On the other hand, long-term use of Retin-A has been very good for my skin. In the long run, a tube maybe costs me about $10 a month----I use Renova now because generic Retin-A is too drying----and it's been worth it for me. I am not sure I could justify spending $100 a month on something cosmetic, though, especially if the results go away when you stop using the product.)
Actually, one former friend once told me that she was glad she had thick lashes and not short, thin ones like mine. Although that was not the reason we stopped speaking, it was a rather unnecessary put-down. Isn't that just incredibly rude? (Makes me want to get a scrip for Lat---oh, never mind.)
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I have taken fish oil capsules for a long time. I'm more regular with them since I'm getting older.
I also take flax seed oil. I've read alot on the benefits with regards to reducing stroke and heart attacks. And although I don't buy the ones that are burpless (don't bother me at all), I do get the ones that are purified to eliminate the mercury.
I'm in agreement with many that making them Rx means that many may be able to afford them. There are many good natural products out there that are safer and work better for many. I hope they continue to give more and more education to MDs and nurses with regards to herbs and such.