Published Jan 16, 2007
Shadelyn
78 Posts
Has anyone here ever seen a person who had ceased to breath continue to move. I ask because there was a lady who did just that in the ED where I work about a month ago. No heart beat, not breathing, nothing, but her feet and legs as well as her fingers continued to move around gently for about 20 minutes. It was so strange that we had to make the family wait to view the body.
I know that she was given a lot of different meds while we were trying to resuscitate her, do you think that is what caused it?
nurse4theplanet, RN
1,377 Posts
ooooh how creepy...:chair:
I have never seen this. However, I have heard a moan as residual air passed through the vocal cords....scared the bejeezus out of me.
tgb3rn
116 Posts
Has anyone here ever seen a person who had ceased to breath continue to move. I ask because there was a lady who did just that in the ED where I work about a month ago. No heart beat, not breathing, nothing, but her feet and legs as well as her fingers continued to move around gently for about 20 minutes. It was so strange that we had to make the family wait to view the body. I know that she was given a lot of different meds while we were trying to resuscitate her, do you think that is what caused it?
"HOLY CRAP!!!!!" or something along those lines would have been heard spewing from my mouth.
Freaky
Tom
ladynan
1 Post
I have never hear of anything like this before. I am sure that a answer lie somewhere. If anyone finds the answer I would like to know. Thanks Ladynan
Levin
63 Posts
Ah now that reminds me of something
From :system shock 2Patient Watson died at 0240 of non-specific causes. Despite zero respiratory and brain function, the body is still displaying autonomous motor function, as does the parasite. At 0847, the patient even spoke to one of the nurses. Autopsy is set for 1630 and then we'll see what makes this Lazarus tick...
From :system shock 2
Patient Watson died at 0240 of non-specific causes. Despite zero respiratory and brain function, the body is still displaying autonomous motor function, as does the parasite. At 0847, the patient even spoke to one of the nurses. Autopsy is set for 1630 and then we'll see what makes this Lazarus tick...
Never played a game quite that scary/creepy since.
I'm afraid I can't enlighten you as to your patient though.
meownsmile, BSN, RN
2,532 Posts
I have seen it happen, and have also seen people have very random shallow chest acivity after death. If you think about your nerves and how some are actually independant of the brain it stands to reason that there may be some random nerve activity yet after death. Remember your sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system? Have you ever seen frog legs being fried? Same prinicpal, if there is still some fireing of the nerves in the extremities you may get some slight twitching in the legs and hands for a few minutes.
barbyann
337 Posts
Maybe pt had an electronic nerve stimulator implanted. They are used to treat seizure disorders and chronic pain syndromes. They would still be activated even after death until turned off by a magnetic wand. Did pt have one of these conditions?
bethin
1,927 Posts
I've seen it happen and about peed my pants! I was attempting to wash around the pt's mouth when is hand moved and touched my stomach. It was one of those soft brushes that makes your skin crawl.
Ok, I've got the willies now.
TazziRN, RN
6,487 Posts
The first time I saw it I almost lost it. I've seen it many times since, and it doesn't phase me anymore. There is still electrical activity in the body even after the heart and lungs cease to work, and that's what you see. It can be so mild that all I could see was muscle fibers twitching after we opened a chest and lost the pt anyway. It can be severe enough that the top or bottom half of the body can literally come up from the gurney. Haven't seen that one myself but I've heard others talking about it. Scared the crap out of them.
Thanks for the replies. It was definately a unique sight. I didn't believe it until I saw it myself. It makes sence that her muscles and neurons were still firing. To my knowledge she didn't have any sort of sitmulation devices.
I have heard the moan before, that's creepy too. But, i think I'd pee in my pants or pass out if a body ever sat up. That may be the end of my short lived career in healthcare...
MsLady06
217 Posts
Whats to be afraid of? The person is just making transition. Some people do moan or even move afterwards...hey some go to the bathroom too. Just tell them to travel well.
I dunno. Loosing control of bodily fluids and expelling trapped air are one thing that I completely understand. However sitting up is a process usually involving conscious movement of skeletal muscles that seems to complicated to happen in the body of someone who's soul should no longer be present.
Plus it is definitely something that I would never expect, it would totally catch me off guard.